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Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed
New Scientist ^ | October 6, 2009 | Ewen Calloway

Posted on 10/07/2009 3:44:32 PM PDT by genetic homophobe

Packing heat may backfire. People who carry guns are far likelier to get shot – and killed – than those who are unarmed, a study of shooting victims in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, has found.

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To: genetic homophobe

This may be true with a caveat:

it’s only for 677 case participants that had been shot in an assault and 684 population-based control participants within Philadelphia, PA, from 2003 to 2006.

Hard to make that stretch nation wide.


41 posted on 10/07/2009 4:01:22 PM PDT by Sparko ("Barack Hussein Obama He said Red, Yellow, Black or White All are equal in His sight. Mmm, mmm, mmm")
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To: Brucifer
"...People who carry guns are far likelier to get shot – and killed..."

Especially if they're criminals and they try jerking around a CCW.

42 posted on 10/07/2009 4:01:53 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: arthurus

I’ve done plenty of contracted studies and I know that many such studies are pre-determined based on the motivation and desires of the benefactor. They, any like this one, aren’t worth the paper they are printed upon.


43 posted on 10/07/2009 4:03:21 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: A CA Guy
They must be referring to the criminals.

EXACTLY!!!!!

Let's see a breakdown of the results.

44 posted on 10/07/2009 4:03:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take a beating.)
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To: genetic homophobe

Hey, what is that smell?


45 posted on 10/07/2009 4:06:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: genetic homophobe
Packing heat may backfire. People who carry guns are far likelier to get shot – and killed – than those who are unarmed, a study of shooting victims in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, has found.

Just driving through Philadelphia is likely to get you killed.

46 posted on 10/07/2009 4:07:16 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: genetic homophobe

Gangsters in the hood are far more proficient with guns than law abiding citizens? Aren’t we giving them too much credit?


47 posted on 10/07/2009 4:07:28 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: genetic homophobe

Not a suprising result because anyone with a bit of common sense in Philly is packing heat!!


48 posted on 10/07/2009 4:07:39 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: genetic homophobe

I wanna see the author of this article walk through the worst neighborhoods in Philthydelphia after dark and see if he has the same sentiments by the next morning, that is if he even survives an hour.


49 posted on 10/07/2009 4:08:03 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: Teflonic
These are the kind of results one would expect when lumping legal gun owners with gang bangers.

And you know they did this because...

It apears this study is slanted, but it is not as simple as that. When the article states they tried to adjust for income levels it is absurd to suggest they considered a shot gangbanger the same as a regular citizen.

For starters, as some have already pointed out< Philly is a seriously screwed up place, and a poor place to do the study. They sidestep the issue, but the level of violence in that city is disproportionately high. I have read articles about the serious extensive problems at NFL and MLB games. People have been beaten to death and drunk fans picking fights can be charted in 1/2 hour time slices.

What I'm getting at is I suspect that in Philly both those who carry legally and those who do not are more likely to shoot it out. And I think the selection of Phily was intentional to warp the data. Without more information to show balance this looks to be another blatant media effort to vilify guns.

Hey, at least the rate of SUVs murdering people has dropped.

50 posted on 10/07/2009 4:09:02 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: pogo101

and they will bring powdered donuts to mark your chalk line.


51 posted on 10/07/2009 4:09:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: RasterMaster

You don’t need to wait until dark in some ‘neighbor’ hoods.

But I know Obama will fix it all.


52 posted on 10/07/2009 4:09:28 PM PDT by Sparko ("Barack Hussein Obama He said Red, Yellow, Black or White All are equal in His sight. Mmm, mmm, mmm")
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To: genetic homophobe

And living in the UK appears to drastically increase my chances of being a crime victim. (Gotta love what liberalism can do to any country....)


53 posted on 10/07/2009 4:11:57 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: RasterMaster

They could start walking on the north side and see how that goes. Wouldn’t even have to go all the way.

Just walk North of the freeway, just out of downtown.


54 posted on 10/07/2009 4:12:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: genetic homophobe

Carrying concealed is a change in lifestyle, mindset and a love of life... yours. Any responsible concealed carry gives immense consideration to the consequences of both action and inaction.

Defense handgun training! Practice it!


55 posted on 10/07/2009 4:13:42 PM PDT by airdalechief (&#924;&#959;&#955;&#8060;&#957; &#955;&#940;&#946;&#949;)
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To: genetic homophobe

56 posted on 10/07/2009 4:13:55 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead. Bonus tag line: FAIL 246, Obama 0)
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To: Gaffer
They, any like this one, aren’t worth the paper they are printed upon.

Worse, they degrade the paper because they leave ink smears on your backside.

57 posted on 10/07/2009 4:14:41 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Vendome

Just walk to 8th and Girard or for some real fun, walk across the Ben Franklin and at the end of the bridge, make a right.

You might even see fire works.


58 posted on 10/07/2009 4:15:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: arthurus

Damn! Now, that was effin’ funny!


59 posted on 10/07/2009 4:18:04 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: genetic homophobe

I wonder what the stats look like when they EXCLUDE carrying gang-bangers and INCLUDE those with permits!

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics!


60 posted on 10/07/2009 4:19:45 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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