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News from Alan Keyes: Judge Confirms Eligibility Trial to Proceed
AIPNews.com ^ | October 7, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 10/07/2009 11:23:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

By Alan Keyes
October 7, 2009
Loyal to Liberty

 

I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama's eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has released a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer's arguments.

Loyal to Liberty ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; judgecarter; keyes; lawsuit; naturalborn; obama; orlytaitz; usurper
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To: BP2
That's assuming that some Hawaii newspaper employee in 2009 accurately confirmed that his newspaper in 1961 — possibly before that employee was even BORN — that Hawaii newspapers "REPORTEDLY" accepted birth notifications ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY from the State Registrar.

Well, if you look at the top of the birth announcements page, it indicates that data are received directly from the health department.

That's compared to Obama's newspaper birth announcement which is likely a "vanity" birth announcement, paid for by his mother or grandmother.

No it is not. It says right at the top of the page that the birth announcements are from the health department.

That in and of itself is a big problem for Obama's newspaper birth announcement, as Obama's birth record was merely FILED by the local Registrar, not ACCEPTED by the State Registrar.

Meaningless bureaucratic change in COLB terminology. COLB's printed since the early 2000's say "filed." Those printed before say "accepted."

Further, if notification ONLY came from the State of Hawaii Registrar, there would be newspaper birth announcements for the Nordyke twins whose birth certificates were ACCEPTED by the State Registrar ... born within 18 hours of Obama's purported birth at the same hospital.

How do you know there aren't such announcements? Did you actually go to the library in Honolulu and check the microfilm to see if they are there?

1,301 posted on 10/09/2009 9:12:07 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: danamco
And it has been amended!!!

No it has not.

1,302 posted on 10/09/2009 9:12:30 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: BP2
Thank you!

We know all that, that the illegal usurper has been "sneaked" into office as a total fraud with the help of a bunch of enablers in Congress, all the SoS, the judiciary branch and some powerful unknown powers outside this country, e.i award the Nobel price after two (2) weeks in office, hello!!

Try to explain that to the DoJ (Aporn) employee here who acts like they have Autism, ADD, ADHD and possible also Bi-Polar!!!

1,303 posted on 10/09/2009 9:16:30 AM PDT by danamco
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To: BP2

Excellent - clear as a silver bell - BTTT - everyone should read this.


1,304 posted on 10/09/2009 9:16:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Vendome

Every time I do something at work I’m going to say, “think I can get a Peace Prize for that?”


1,305 posted on 10/09/2009 9:18:01 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

Correction it is a “Piece Prize”


1,306 posted on 10/09/2009 9:24:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Of course not. However, you have not been officially knighted yet so we need to fix that.

I. Parsifal, Knight of the Grail, Defender of Virginity and Chastity, and Bane of Gooses, doth hereby dubbeth and annointeth Thee, Non-Sequitur, as a Knight of the Realm, with all rights and privileges pertaining thereto, including but not limited to, the slaying of strawmen, stalking horses, and dragons of various sorts, and bestoweth upon Thee the Affirmative Duty to seek out Untruth, in whatever form it may appear, and kicketh it in its hindparts. Arise, Sir Non-Sequitur!

parsy, who waves his sword around and mutters arcane words


1,307 posted on 10/09/2009 9:27:55 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: BP2; LucyT; curiosity; All
Your make valid points in your post #1169.

I might add, however, that there is an additional possibility for fraud in relation to the birth announcements, one that was suggested by Polarik:

It could be that the Obama birth announcements were created at a much later date and pasted over the original newspaper copies on microfilm or microfiche to make it appear as if they were within the original newspaper listings when in fact they were not.

1,308 posted on 10/09/2009 9:52:05 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: BP2

As most are well aware, Vattel was used by the framers of the constitution as a reference, hence the entry into the constitution:


Whereas, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution states: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. “ This means that, in modern times, you cannot legally or legitimately serve as President of the United States, unless you are: . at least 35 years of age . a resident of the United States for at least 14 years . a natural born citizen. Since allegiance of the potential President and Commander-in-Chief was the main concern of the Founding Fathers, ‘Natural Born Citizen’ has been understood to mean meeting the following two requirements: . You must be born in the United States; “on US soil” and . Both of your parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.

What amazes me is that the “Obamabots” out there actually think that is they state that it does not exist, often enough, to enough people, it will simply not exist???

Not so, it is my fervent hope that it will never will happen.


1,309 posted on 10/09/2009 9:53:38 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
As most are well aware, Vattel was used by the framers of the constitution as a reference, hence the entry into the constitution:

Why then, all the focus on the specific phrase "natural-born citizen"? Since neither the 1760 and 1787 English versions of Vattel's book didn't even contain that phrase, why doesn't Article II read "No person except an indigene...." -- which is the word used in the contemporaneous versions of Vattel's work?

The phrase "natural-born citizens" didn't appear in the English translation of Vattel's work until 10 years after the Constitution was passed.
1,310 posted on 10/09/2009 10:10:14 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: etraveler13; BP2; Sibre Fan

So Sibre Fan. Want to drop the hammer now?


1,311 posted on 10/09/2009 10:13:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Sibre Fan

Nobody has even implied that they used Vattels words verbatem. It was a reference text. The constitution in its final form is what it is. The text is clear and unambiguous.
Accept it.


1,312 posted on 10/09/2009 10:18:33 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Non-Sequitur

??????????????????????


1,313 posted on 10/09/2009 10:19:40 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
Nobody has even implied that they used Vattels words verbatem. It was a reference text. The constitution in its final form is what it is. The text is clear and unambiguous. Accept it.

Then where did the idea that a natural-born citizen was one with a U.S. citizen father come from if not Vattel?

1,314 posted on 10/09/2009 10:25:15 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: etraveler13
Nobody has even implied that they used Vattels words verbatem. It was a reference text. The constitution in its final form is what it is. The text is clear and unambiguous.

I thought that the rationale went as follows:
John Jay recommended the insertion of the NBC clause, as shown in his letter.
John Jay read Vattel.
Therefore, John Jay was intending to adopt Vattel's theory of citizenship.
John Jay's recommended insertion was adopted.
Therefore, the adopted version was based on Vattel's theory.

Except John Jay couldn't have gotten the term from Vattel, because the term did not exist in Vattel's work at that time.

But I accept that there may be another theory.
1,315 posted on 10/09/2009 10:25:17 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: Non-Sequitur

Oh, gee-whiz...perhaps the minds of our Founding Fathers???

C’mon N-S....your smarter than these questions....


1,316 posted on 10/09/2009 10:28:08 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Sibre Fan; etraveler13

oops - i left out a point of the logic, previously used:

John Jay recommended the insertion of the NBC clause, as shown in his letter.
John Jay read Vattel.
Vattel referenced the NBC term.
Therefore, John Jay was intending to adopt Vattel’s theory of citizenship.
John Jay’s recommended insertion was adopted.
Therefore, the adopted version was based on Vattel’s theory.

Except John Jay couldn’t have gotten the term from Vattel, because the term did not exist in Vattel’s work at that time.

But I accept that there may be another theory.


1,317 posted on 10/09/2009 10:29:07 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: curiosity

Yes it has!!!


1,318 posted on 10/09/2009 10:31:13 AM PDT by danamco
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To: etraveler13
Oh come on. You can't on the one hand claim the term references Vattel, then when you find out Vattel didn't use the term act like it doesn't matter. If they were citing Vattel they would have used his term. That they didn't, shows they weren't.

The whole Vattel argument doesn't wash anyway. If you keep reading Vattel you'll find a couple of sections down that he points out the rules in England are different. He wasn't talking about ENGLISH Common Law.

1,319 posted on 10/09/2009 10:31:45 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Sibre Fan

Indeed, the framers of the constitution, IMO, realized that the writings of Vattel applied to another country, and other political processes, my guess...they left those countries because of their oppression...taking this into consideration, and looking for checks and balances, they saw that the Presidential position could only be held by a Natural Born Citizen with natural born parents, to assure loyalty only to America, except as stipulated as the country began.
Again, JMO


1,320 posted on 10/09/2009 10:32:39 AM PDT by etraveler13
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