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News from Alan Keyes: Judge Confirms Eligibility Trial to Proceed
AIPNews.com ^ | October 7, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 10/07/2009 11:23:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

By Alan Keyes
October 7, 2009
Loyal to Liberty

 

I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama's eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has released a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer's arguments.

Loyal to Liberty ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; judgecarter; keyes; lawsuit; naturalborn; obama; orlytaitz; usurper
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Good spin, Bubba!


1,061 posted on 10/08/2009 11:44:55 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
No one, including you, knows that Obama was born in Hawaii at this point

Hawaii state officials, in straighforward language, have confirmed his vital records say he was born in Hawaii.

That means he could get a real COLB that says he was born in Hawaii.

I'm continually amazed at how frequently I have to point out the obvious to birthers.

1,062 posted on 10/08/2009 11:45:40 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: mlo
Name a fact that has been ignored.

The fact that the man you call Barack Obama has not provided any relevant documentation that he is a natural born citizen of the United States, even in the face of grave doubts about the facts of the case.

In spite of the fact that his refusal to provide such documentation and put such doubts about his legitimacy to rest greatly damages the office he claims and the credibility of every act that is taken in his name.

1,063 posted on 10/08/2009 11:45:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: ghettofinger
.....This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date”

Can you give a link to that again? I'm pretty sure that that specific provision applies to a different provision, and does not apply to the first section you quoted.
1,064 posted on 10/08/2009 11:47:00 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: etraveler13

If divide and conquer is their purpose here, they have sorely misjudged the intellegence and character of Freepers! That is a good thing when you find the enemies of the constitution under rating their opposition.


1,065 posted on 10/08/2009 11:47:12 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: curiosity
How else would you have her say it?

"Here's the long form birth certificate, your honor."

1,066 posted on 10/08/2009 11:47:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: SaraJohnson
Actually the constitution’s natural born citizenship requirements rules over any other law, bubba.

And Vattel's opinion on what that is rules over the constitution, over SCOTUS opinion, and over standing statute, right? What else does Vattel control?

1,067 posted on 10/08/2009 11:48:01 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: etraveler13
"I seem to see the same people asking the same question over and over, even after that question gets answered, but they keep asking the question."

You are describing yourself and the other birthers. You keep raising the same points and objections, no matter how many times they've been explained. The same false statements keep getting repeated, no matter how many times they are disproven.

1,068 posted on 10/08/2009 11:48:12 AM PDT by mlo
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To: EternalVigilance
"Here's the long form birth certificate, your honor."

Right, so you would take her word for it that the long-form is authentic, but you don't take her word for it that he was born in Hawaii.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.../sarcasm

1,069 posted on 10/08/2009 11:49:43 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: mlo

I know you are a spinner avoiding the simple request to prove your Dear Learder’s NBC status, but what are we?


1,070 posted on 10/08/2009 11:49:56 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EternalVigilance
"The fact that the man you call Barack Obama has not provided any relevant documentation that he is a natural born citizen of the United States, even in the face of grave doubts about the facts of the case."

That assertion has not been ignored, has it? We've discussed it. You know that we have. So your statement was false, wasn't it?

1,071 posted on 10/08/2009 11:50:06 AM PDT by mlo
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To: SaraJohnson

I’ll take that as a concession that you can’t prove there’s any such thing as an affirmative action scholarship for Indonesians, then. But you’ll still believe that he must have applied for one.


1,072 posted on 10/08/2009 11:50:57 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: stockpirate
Well we know without a doubt you are a liberal troll.

Because you say I am? Which is pretty much the stock Birther answer to anything. Obama isn't a natural-born citizen...because I say he isn't. Obama needs to show his long form...because I say he should. Judges who toss out Birther cases are either fools or tools or victims of blackmail...because I say they were. Well I'll file the 'liberal troll' label in the dumpster where the rest of our stuff is, and where it belongs.

1,073 posted on 10/08/2009 11:52:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SaraJohnson
I know you are a spinner avoiding the simple request to prove your Dear Learder’s NBC status,

It's already been proven.

but what are we?

People who take it as an article of faith that Bambi isn't a natural born citizen no matter what evidence is presented.

1,074 posted on 10/08/2009 11:53:19 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Sibre Fan

“Over 122 million people voted, and the majority believed the “evidence” was sufficient.”

Four million people could vote to kill you without a trial, but that would be unconstitutional. Majority does not rule - the rule of law rules. And the constitution is above it all. Too bad for you, mobster.


1,075 posted on 10/08/2009 11:53:26 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mlo

The reader can go back up the thread and read the multiple facts that have been ignored by you and your fellow travelers. Folks aren’t as stupid as you seem to think they are.


1,076 posted on 10/08/2009 11:54:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: EternalVigilance
The Constitution says that the President has to be a Natural Born Citizen. It doesn't say that he has to prove it to any specified person by any specified means. Until now, every President has merely said that he is a Natural Born Citizen, and no one demanded any particular documentation from them-- no one asked Jimmy Carter or Gerald Ford or Bill Clinton to show a birth certificate.

Given the lack of any law requiring that any form of proof be shown to anyone, and the lack of any precedent for the courts to get involved in the selection of the President, the courts have consistently held so far (and I expect them to continue to hold) that whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen is an issue that cannot be decided by the judicial branch but is rather committed to the Electoral College and to the Congress when they certify the electoral votes.

It would probably be a good idea for there to be legislation requiring that someone confirm a candidate's eligibility and specifying precisely what documentation is required. But, until such legislation is passed, my prediction, speaking as a lawyer with more than 30 years' experience litigating in federal courts, is that the courts are going to refuse to hear these cases. I say this not to defend Obama, but merely to point out the reality of the legal landscape that now exists.

1,077 posted on 10/08/2009 11:55:15 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

You have already proven you are willing to spin any lie necessary to protect law breakers. Nothing I say will change that character flaw in you. Sorry.


1,078 posted on 10/08/2009 11:55:30 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: curiosity

What’s wrong with requiring the best evidence available? Why take a general statement from an official when a long-form BC is on file? If I need to show my BC, it’s not enough to say, “Call the lady in the state vital records office; she’ll tell you.”


1,079 posted on 10/08/2009 11:56:26 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: EternalVigilance
Barack Obama has not provided any relevant documentation that he is a natural born citizen of the United States

A COLB is documentation. Just because doesn't satisfy you doesn't mean it isn't valid. There is nothing in the Constitution that requires Bambi to prove his status to your satisfaction.

even in the face of grave doubts about the facts of the case.

There is no factual basis to any of the your grave doubts.

1,080 posted on 10/08/2009 11:57:12 AM PDT by curiosity
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