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News from Alan Keyes: Judge Confirms Eligibility Trial to Proceed
AIPNews.com ^ | October 7, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 10/07/2009 11:23:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

It is always the same circular argument that avoids getting to the bottom, isn’t it! Everyone lies about sex; when the issue is perjury. It’s the same damn corruption, over and over and over again out of Demoncrat traitors.


1,041 posted on 10/08/2009 11:33:40 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank you for having the patience and good will to give them a chance to come over from the dark side of usurption. You are better than I. I lost my innocence last evening on these party sluts.


1,042 posted on 10/08/2009 11:36:10 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Genoa
His subsequent history could have resulted in an amended BC being filed following his mother’s second marriage to an Indonesian citizen and his adoption by him.

There's no evidence his BC was ever amended. But so what if it was? How is that at all relevant to his eligibility?

It’s also possible that the COLB is bogus.

Sure it's possible, in the same way that anything is possible.

You can't know for sure that the government is not covering up evidence of extra terrestrial visitors. It's possible.

It's also possible Obama would forge a COLB, even though we know he could get a real one listing Hawaii as the birthplace.

Both of the above are possible, but they're so unlikely that they aren't possibilities that any rational person would take seriously.

There are ways that the Hawaii official’s statement could be the truth, but not the whole truth.

The only thing that matters to his eligibility is that he was born in Hawaii. Nothing else in his vital records could disqualify him from the presidency.

It’s also possible that she was not telling the truth.

Yeah, it's possible in the same way it's possible that the moon landing was staged, or Elvis is really alive, or [fill in your favorite conspiracy theory].

1,043 posted on 10/08/2009 11:36:50 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well we know without a doubt you are a liberal troll.


1,044 posted on 10/08/2009 11:37:42 AM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: mlo
Two, nobody has demonstrated, as a matter of fact, that he really is ineligible. So you can't just assume that the constitutional requirement has even been violated.

I don't assume that the requirements have been violated. I am an investigator and I want the truth whatever it may be. What little has been presented so far could easily be fraudulent, and what is "sealed" could reveal that fraud. I also believe it doen't matter if he was born in Hawaii in the Governors Mansion with 100 witnesses, he still claims he was British at birth and I believe that disqualifies him.

While that question needs to be answered for now and the future, we might as well look at the other representations to determine if they are true or suspect or definately fraudulent. This is not going away anytime soon. I have stated before that I thought it was more likely than not that he was born in Hawaii, this refusal to properly document it along with the media name calling and refusal to investigates makes me wonder if maybe he was not born in Hawaii or he did lose his citizenship or eligibility in some way. Transparency is just another lie from Obama. WHY? Maybe he is just covering up his school records because he was a poor student who took a lot ot leftist classes, I don't know.

I'll tell you this, we the people need an answer as to what exactly is a Natural Born Citizen and we need the means to investigate those that desire to be President of this country. That is so simple that even a caveman can get it.

1,045 posted on 10/08/2009 11:38:03 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: curiosity

“It’s also possible Obama would forge a COLB, even though we know he could get a real one listing Hawaii as the birthplace.”

That is a lie. No one, including you, knows that Obama was born in Hawaii at this point. You all are sure exerting a lot of effort to avoid proving that, aren’t you.


1,046 posted on 10/08/2009 11:38:22 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EternalVigilance
If my employer wanted to recheck my credentials he would have the right to do so at any time for any reason.

Okay, what documents are you going to produce as evidence you didn't renounce your citizenship?

Who rules in this country, “Bubba”? The people or the lawyers?

The law rules.

1,047 posted on 10/08/2009 11:38:32 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Bill Ayers is that you?


1,048 posted on 10/08/2009 11:38:48 AM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: stockpirate

No doubt about it. It is Clinton’s sexual harassment and perjury problem all over again - liars and spinners galore. Shameful.


1,049 posted on 10/08/2009 11:39:43 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EternalVigilance

“Well, to be exact, if he was not born in the United States of America, under the laws of this country in 1961, his mother could not transmit citizenship to him”

But the laws of this country NOW....say the she could, and did.

“a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:
.....This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date”


1,050 posted on 10/08/2009 11:40:20 AM PDT by ghettofinger
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To: SaraJohnson
The voters were lied to.

Over 122 million people voted, and the majority believed the "evidence" was sufficient.

What makes a single judge, or a single jury of 12 people more or less likely to believe the evidence?

Juries and Judges are lied to as well. (In fact, if reports of Monday's hearing are true, Orly made an outright, verifiable, documented, falsehood, twice, during the hearing.)
1,051 posted on 10/08/2009 11:41:00 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“The law rules.”

Actually the constitution’s natural born citizenship requirements rules over any other law, bubba.


1,052 posted on 10/08/2009 11:41:00 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
It is always the same circular argument that avoids getting to the bottom, isn’t it!

So you can't even demonstrate that there's such a thing as an affirmative action scholarship for Indonesian students, but you're sure that Obama must have applied for one. Is that about right?

1,053 posted on 10/08/2009 11:41:24 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Hardly."

OK, prove it.

Name a fact that has been ignored.

1,054 posted on 10/08/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
The law rules.

Not as far as you and your crowd are concerned, obviously.

"No person except a natural born Citizen...shall be eligible to the Office of President...."

1,055 posted on 10/08/2009 11:42:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: rolling_stone

Now you’ve done it.

Why did you have to insult all the fine upstanding Cavemen?


1,056 posted on 10/08/2009 11:42:35 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: stockpirate
Bill Ayers is that you?

Can't be. Ayers is busy ghostwriting Obama's Presidential Memoirs, so they'll be ready for publication as soon as he leaves office.
1,057 posted on 10/08/2009 11:42:44 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: SaraJohnson

I seem to see the same people asking the same question over and over, even after that question gets answered, but they keep asking the question.


I won’t accuse these people at this time of anything more than being dense, and annoying, but perhaps that is their purpose.

I tell those few to “do their own homework”, find their own answers. They like to send other off on time consuming rabbit trails, looking for facts they already have.

Divide and conquer is their watchword, and I will call them on it if I see it happening.


1,058 posted on 10/08/2009 11:42:46 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: EternalVigilance
Therefore I know better than to take politicians and bureaucrats at their word.

Then no one would able to prove the location of his birth to your satisfaction.

Even if you were personally presented an officially certified hard copy of a long form BC by Bambi himself, you would be taking Hawaii state bureaucrats' word for it that the information contained therein is authentic.

Especially when those words are carefully parsed legalese, and they are obviously hiding something important.

This is what she said: "Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii." That's "legalese?" You've got to be kidding me. How else would you have her say it?

1,059 posted on 10/08/2009 11:43:31 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: ghettofinger

Hey Dear Leader cultist, welcome to Freerepublic!

O bam Ah, O ban ah, O bam ah!

mmm mmm mmm
Barack his lordness Obama
mmm mmm mmm
Can’t show a birth certificate
mmm mmm mmm
wonder why that is
mmm mmm mmm
Barack the stupid Obama


1,060 posted on 10/08/2009 11:44:01 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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