If you read Darwin you may see that he didn't think strict biological natural selection was important for us. He thought that social cohesiveness, regardless of physical traits, is what makes one society stronger than another. Specifically, he wrote about "sympathy." The more sympathetic society, the one that helps the weakest among it, will be more socially cohesive and thus will be stronger in the long run.
It's pretty much a direct argument against abortion and eugenics.
For an example, just look at the Christian world. Christian societies are much more sympathetic overall than Muslim ones, and if it weren't for the freak accident of sitting on a gold mine of oil, the Muslim world would still be globally irrelevant. Yet we're not physically superior to them, only socially.
“It’s pretty much a direct argument against abortion and eugenics.”
No it’s not because the general problem with evolutionist thinking is that you can use it to explain anything you want and its opposite. It is the theory of que sera, sera.
The proof is in the pudding: the most accomplished evolutionists were and still are strong advocates of abortion and/or eugenics.
Yes, let's read some Darwin, shall we?
"The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world." (Charles Darwin, 1881, 3 July, Life and Letters of Darwin, vol. 1, 316)
Why, this man is just bubbling over with "sympathy" and "social cohesiveness" here, isn't he! If you like this, just wait till you read what Dar-wikipedia wrote about his views on "physical traits." If you need more commentary on what Dar-witless meant, just summon up a contemporary sampling of Dar-dickless's "Bull Dog," little Tommy-boy Huxley. (/sarc)
OK, Charlie. So in human terms "lower races" are fit for -- in your words -- "elimination," are they now?
Better be careful, One might think some crazy German in the not too distant future might take you up on that idea.
"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world.
"At the same time the anthropomorphous apes [i.e., blacks – ed.], as Professor Schaffhausen has remarked, (Anthropological Review, April, 1867, p. 236) will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla." (Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, Chap. vi)
Ouch! You even used that term "exterminated" this time!
Really now, upChuckie. Don't you realize exactly how your evolutionist acolytes in the 20th and 21st centuries will apply what you have written here to justify under the color of science what is nothing more than the evolutionist-materialist's inherent bigotries, and the abortion mills, which fulfil their plans for what they consider "undesireables?"
It's pretty much a direct argument against abortion and eugenics.
Right. And who was it, anti-Repuli-crackpot, who coined the term, "eugenics" and who were the immediate philosophical and family inheritors of the mantle who ultimately carried forward dear Charlie's vison? Try the members of the estimable Eugenics Society and those who were formal recipients of the Darwin Medal, first awarded in 1890 as a tribute to Darwin: "A silver medal... given... in reward for work of acknowledged distinction in the broad area of biology in which Charles Darwin worked" - The Royal Society.
Let's see if you can recognize a few names:
Francis Galton Darwin Medalist 1902. Charles Darwin's cousin. Coined the word eugenics in the early 1880s. Founded the Eugenics Society (the British one).
Only Chuckie Darweenie's cousin.
Francis Darwin Darwin Medalist 1912. Cambridge Eugenics Society member.
Just some Chuckie spawn.
Horace Darwin Cambridge Eugenics Society.
More Chuckie spawn.
George Howard Cambridge Eugenics Society. Charles Darwin's son
Sill more Chuckie spawn.
Charles Galton Darwin Eugenics Society life fellow, vice-president 1939, director 1939, president 1953-1959, committee 1960. Chairman of Promising Families. Grandson of Charles Darwin, son of George Howard Darwin. Wrote for the racist journal Mankind Quarterly, which was edited by Otmar Von Verschuer (Josef Mengele's mentor at Auschwitz).
Grandspawn of dear Chuckie.
OK, only Chuck's grandson, but, hey, cut the guy some slack right, anti-Republi-crack-head?
Thomas Henry Huxley Darwin Medalist 1894. Tireless anti-religious polemicist, Darwin's "Bulldog". Huxley expended massive effort attacking God, Christianity, the Catholic Church, and even the Salvation Army. "In addition to the truth of the doctrine of evolution, indeed, one of its greatest merits in my eyes, is the fact that it occupies a position of complete and irreconcilable antagonism to that vigorous and consistent enemy of the highest intellectual, moral, and social life of mankind--the Catholic Church" - T.H Huxley, Darwiniana.
Just has that oh so charitable cachet to it, doesn't it?
"No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average Negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man.....it is simply incredible to think that.....he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried on by thoughts and not by bites." (Thomas Huxley, 1871, Lay Sermons, addresses and reviews)
Such a lovely, charitable fellow was Charlie's sidekick, Tommy boy, wasn't he!
Julian Huxley Darwin Medalist 1956. Grandson of Thomas Henry Huxley. Eugenics Society member, fellow, council member, vice-president, president. Euthanasia Society executive committee. Abortion Law Reform Society vice-president. Co-founder of UNESCO. First director general of UNESCO, 1946-1948. Author of Evolution: The Modern Synthesis (1942). Collaborated with J.S. Haldane and H.G. Wells on the popular 1920s evolution propaganda ("The Incontrovertible Fact of Evolution") series Science of Life. Popularized the French works of Teilhard de Chardin (Piltdown Man, Peking Man.). Huxley was a long-time friend of Nobel laureate Konrad Lorenz, who worked on Nazi Racial hygene. Humanism, transhumanism. Socialism.
Oh just "Hucky's" grandspawn. Nothing to see here. Friend of a Nobel lureate racial hygeine philosophist no less! Evolutionism-Liberalism-Socialism-United Nations-Leftism-Communism-Euthanasia. Yeah, nothing to see here. Really....
Paul Popenoe Pro-Nazi. American Eugenics Society member, director. Human Betterment Foundation. The German Sterilization Law (J Heredity, 1934): "Hitler... bases his hopes of a national regeneration solidly on the application of biological principles to human society."
Whew! Finally an honest to goodness racist, nazi, Eugenicist who wasn't in the physical spawn-line of either Chuckie or Hucky! Hey I'll bet that J Heredity article was even peer reviewed, too!
Margaret Sanger Eugenics Society, life fellow. American Eugenics Society. Founder of Planned Parenthood. The Negro Project Girlfriend of Havelock Ellis (eugenist) and H. G. Wells (eugenist).
Ah Yes, THAT Margaret Sanger. Let's look at Margaret Sanger's take on the value she placed upon "charity" too shall we? Such a pesky thing that Salvation Army organization must have been in the minds of Tommy Huxley and Margaret Sanger:
“Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease. Those vast, complex, interrelated organizations aiming to control and to diminish the spread of misery and destitution and all the menacing evils that spring out of this sinisterly fertile soil, are the surest sign that our civilization has bred, is breeding and perpetuating constantly increasing numbers of defectives, delinquents and dependents. “
It [charity] encourages the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant [emphasis added].
Well there you have it: evo-turds in their own words. These godless eugenic evo-schlubs have contributed so much to the establishment and preservation of conservative thought, and traditional values, haven't they? (/sarc)
How conveniently the phony "conservative" evo-crud puking atheists would like true conservatives to forget what their philosophical roots REALLY are!