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Arlington: Race a Factor in HOT Lanes [group claims discrimination vs minorities]
MyFox DC ^ | 9/21/09 | SHERRI LY

Posted on 09/22/2009 6:25:53 PM PDT by seven.sixtwo

ARLINGTON, Va. - There's a new turn in the debate over high occupancy toll lanes or HOT lanes.

A lawsuit filed by Arlington County last month claims the lanes benefit wealthy white people and discriminates against minorities. While the only rule to get in the HOV lanes on Interstate 395 is you must have three people in the car, Arlington claims adding HOT lanes would cut out poor and minorities by defacto.

That claim doesn't sit well with Fairfax County Supervisor Pat Herrity (R-Springfield).

"I don't think race or class warfare has any standing in this argument," Herrity said.

Buried in the lawsuit filed last month, county attorneys argued the HOT lanes, "encourage and enable a financially-able, privileged class of suburban and rural, primarily Caucasian residents from Stafford and Spotsylvania counties operating single occupancy vehicles ("SOV") unimpeded access on toll lanes."

In other words, it benefits wealthy white people.

A few pages later, the suit claims the Federal Highway Administration and the Virginia Department of Transportation failed to do the proper environmental analysis and that "their actions also constituted civil rights violations as they discriminated against minority and low income communities."

Arlington County Chair Barbara Favola says the race issue only arose because the environmental review includes socioeconomic impact.

"It is not our intention to play a race card. I think that's a very divisive approach," Favola told FOX5.

Before filing the lawsuit, she says, the board never actually discussed race as a factor and that air quality has always been the chief issue. "We were concerned about everybody being affected by the project. We thought congestion was not going to be significantly reduced," Favola said.

Instead, the board believed the HOT lanes could increase traffic, making pollution even worse.

The discrimination claim may be shaky ground for Arlington. The latest U.S. Census numbers show Arlington's population is 80 percent white as of 2008 with a median household income in 2007 of $92,345. The percentage of whites was higher than Fairfax, Prince William, Stafford or Spotsylvania Counties, which are along the HOT lane corridor. Arlington was also wealthier than all but Fairfax County, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Supporters of HOT lanes say people focus too much on the tolls and forget the project also includes money to study bus rapid transit (BRT) and additional park and ride lots.

"Clearly minority and low income people could benefit because it provides an opportunity for car pooling and mass transit," Herrity said.

Even with HOT lanes, high-occupancy vehicles still drive free.

Before the lawsuit was filed, VDOT put the I-395/I-95 HOT lanes on hold because of financial difficulties and concerns in the community. But transportation officials have always said that's only temporary.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: arlingtonva; hotlanes; hov; racecard; racism; va
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I am really at a loss for words. Now, to be sensitive to the whiners, we'll have toll pricing based on skin color.

Originally found here: http://uniteordie.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5227

1 posted on 09/22/2009 6:25:53 PM PDT by seven.sixtwo
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To: seven.sixtwo

HA....I’d like nothing more than to GET RID OF HOV Lanes....if this is how it’s done...so be it!!! Ha...LIBS hoisted on their own petard!


2 posted on 09/22/2009 6:27:36 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrat party has always been the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism and surrender)
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To: seven.sixtwo

I love it when I get to watch liberals eating their own.


3 posted on 09/22/2009 6:27:43 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: seven.sixtwo
See also, for a lively discussion of these nutjobs;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2345860/posts

4 posted on 09/22/2009 6:27:56 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: seven.sixtwo

How’s this then: Only allow those people who have registered cars in their name and a valid driver’s license be allowed to carpool? Isn’t that the reason for those lanes? To get cars off the road?


5 posted on 09/22/2009 6:29:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: seven.sixtwo

As I said on a earlier thread, this is the illegal-sheltering Libtards in the People’s Republic of Arlington calling the Muslim-extremist-sheltering Libtards in the People’s Republic of Fairfax County racists. That is truly, truly funny.


6 posted on 09/22/2009 6:29:59 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: seven.sixtwo
Another good reason to get rid of HOV lanes.
7 posted on 09/22/2009 6:30:55 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Your It.)
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To: SkyDancer

It seems to be the Carpooling works for the minorities are the libtards saying minorities are too disorganized and stupid to carpool?


8 posted on 09/22/2009 6:32:29 PM PDT by omega4179 (We must be the change.)
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To: seven.sixtwo

I don’t understand; we have minorities by me that have 4,872 in a car at a time.

On a serious note, when they were considering charging cars to drive around in lower Manhattan, I thought that reeked of class issues. The idea was shelved, but I never did find out why.


9 posted on 09/22/2009 6:32:41 PM PDT by Carlos Martillo II (Guernica was a work of art...and I don't mean the painting.)
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To: omega4179

I guess it may have to do with paying tolls? Like the rich can afford to use the toll lanes while the poor and minorities have to use city and rural streets to get where they want .... but then it begs the question, how can they afford a car? And are there no middle class minorities???


10 posted on 09/22/2009 6:34:23 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Which makes no since. The rich travel alone, the less rich tend to travel in groups to take advantage of the HOV. Therefore, HOV is, if anything, prejudicial against the rich, regardless their race.


11 posted on 09/22/2009 6:34:56 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: seven.sixtwo

You have GOT to be kidding me... this is from the Onion, right?


12 posted on 09/22/2009 6:35:45 PM PDT by Rafterman ("Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: seven.sixtwo
Bogus charges of racism (such as we see here) must be condemned. Even when they are being used for causes we happen to agree with (HOT lanes are evil—just like real racism, and intellectually dishonest allegations of racism.)
13 posted on 09/22/2009 6:43:34 PM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
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To: seven.sixtwo

These guys are HOT to trot and the lawyers are HOVering like vultures.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 6:45:36 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Zartan for President 2012)
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To: goodnesswins

HOV lanes serve the interests of sociable Conservatives. There are no other considerations that need be made than that.


15 posted on 09/22/2009 6:48:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: seven.sixtwo

The judge who receives this case should follow the lead of Judge Land down in Georgia. I.e., he should levy a $10,000.00 fine against each of the plaintiffs’ lawyers for filing a frivilous suit.


16 posted on 09/22/2009 6:48:59 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: seven.sixtwo
Well, we all know these seat only one...


17 posted on 09/22/2009 6:49:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Welcome to the “obamanation”.


18 posted on 09/22/2009 6:50:32 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: seven.sixtwo

Just rewrite the rules:
HOV Lane eligibility:
3 white people
2 brown people
1 black person

I’m not sure how to deal with 1 black and 2 whites in the car or maybe 1 white and one brown? And what about native peoples? Can we call them “redskins”? Where do they fit in? And Asian peoples? I forgot about them too. Probably no preferences for them. But what about us German - Canadians? This is so complicated (reaching for the Sierra Nevada Pale Ale).


19 posted on 09/22/2009 6:54:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Still Thinking

If it were up to the Leftwingtards EVERYONE would have to ride motorcycles to use the Interstates.


20 posted on 09/22/2009 6:54:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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