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Unless they work for MSNBC, then they are undeniably Obama brown shirters.
“It was certainly uncouth of Rep. Joe Wilson (R., S.C.) to scream, “You lie!” at his commander-in-chief”
Obama is NOT Joe Wilson’s commander-in-chief. He is CIC for military as it is a military title. If President were CIC of us all we would be under a dictatorship. Gross ignorance to think that a congressman is under command of the President.
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* FACTS: The legislation Obama was pushing at the time of the “flap” did not state illegal aliens are not covered, therefore by default they were covered!
* Also a Republican amendment stating that was VOTED DOWN by the Democrat majority, why if the legislation already disallowed it?
* The CRS (Congressional Research Service) agrees that Illegals are/were covered under the then-present HR-3200.
* Obama called the legislators liars FIRST. A President can call people in a Joint Session of Congress liars and is not “admonished” but someone calls him a liar after he does that and that breaks the rules? Transcript from his speech:
Obama: "Some of people’s concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens.
"Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren’t so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie plain and simple. Now… Now, there are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms — the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."
(UNKNOWN): That’s a lie. <- (Joe Wilson)
* Also, on the Friday afternoon “document dump” from the White House, the “language” of the bill was changed to disallow health care for illegal aliens.
* And now the Hispanic Caucus is no longer supporting the bill because it doesn't cover illegals. How much proof do we need, folks?
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Bottom line: Do your OWN research ... and get in their face.
I go along with this. But let's also stop calling people racists for disagreeing with a policy decision.
Or maybe these folks should get a thicker skin. Anyone ever watch the goings on in the British House of Parliament? The Prime Minister questions? We look like stuffed shirts compared to them.
He’s really going on about this. Odd, really, for a man with such historical knowledge to consider a cry of “Liar” to a politician to be extreme and uncivil behavior.
I guess it just shows that even the smartest and best-educated people can fixate weirdly on something picayune.
“It was certainly uncouth of Rep. Joe Wilson (R., S.C.) to scream, “You lie!” at his commander-in-chief “
Mr. Hanson, you are now considered to be my ormerly favorite author. Sad that you think the President commands the Congress and from that simple admission of ignorance and blatant non-understanding of how our system of government works, I will ignore what you say from this point on.
Shame.
The intial affront took place when Obama blatantly lied to Congress and the American people about what was and was not in the bill. To sit in silence would have been “uncouth.” Why is it appropriate to applaud and sing the praises of the speaker when you agree with him, but one cannot show displeasure when you disagree? This sounds more like the rules that governed the former Supreme Soviet.
Unless VDH has seen Obama's long-form Birth Certificate and can vouch for it this is just ludicrous.
Along with the CIC crack, VDH is not having a good day here.
Some are made uncomfortable with “vigorous” confrontation- Hanson appears to be one of those.
For YEARS, “we the people” have slunk away when called liars and racists, been effectively shut up when disagreeing with the left. We who are conservative, or worse-Christian, have been called every imaginable name, lied about and made fun of and completely disregarded. Perhaps, we have decided to take the fight to THEM for a change. If it gets raucous, might I suggest that those whose sensibilities are too tender, put their hands over their ears and hum “la-la-la” to themselves. OR- they might grow a pair and join in.
It is WELL past time for the people to take their country back, and if the feelings of those on the left get hurt?- oh well. I think the Founders would approve.
And others who keep insisting that the president doesn’t have an authentic U.S. birth certificate clearly come off as unhinged
That would melt away if Zero would just show the thing instead of fighting it....
VDH is absolutely right. Frankly, I think it’s high time that a lot of conservatives grow up. There are literally hundreds of legitimate reasons to oppose Obama’s agenda. Let’s focus on those, instead of wasting our time on birth certificate fantasies and engaging in the rhetorical equivalent of snapping each others’ butts with towels in the locker room.
I certainly disagree with him. And I guess he forgot the animosity towards Richard Nixon.
When our media celebrates an Iraqi who threw a shoe at our President Bush, I see no reason to exhibit any civility towards them or their fellow travellers, the dems in government.
I have mixed feelings about this one from VDH. I’m not at all convinced that his “taking the high road” approach will pay off. Sad, but the reality seems otherwise. Sometime you have to get dirty, get down in the trenches, and fight it out.
The shrillness and insults don’t bother me. I’m bothered only by avoidance and covering-up of the truth, or should we say just lack of analysis where truth is the objective.
Jerry Springer is to blame here, folks.
“It was certainly uncouth of Rep. Joe Wilson (R., S.C.) to scream, “You lie!” at his commander-in-chief in the middle of Barack Obama’s recent health-care speech before a joint session of Congress.”
“And others who keep insisting that the president doesn’t have an authentic U.S. birth certificate clearly come off as unhinged - - - “
Why do people extoll Victor Davis Hanson?
Sorry VDH, but I part company with you here. The dhimmicrats control the podium and the state0owned media and they are using both as a bludgeon against America.
We can choose to be polite or we can choose to fight. I’m going to fight them every inch...no surrender...no defeat...no retreat!
The country has always been fragmented in varying degrees, this is nothing new and shouldn't be currently attributed to Baby Boomers, but rather to human nature.
How about the following regarding the heated debates over the adoption of the Jay Treaty in 1795:
"For several days, New York City was saturated with handbills urging citizens to gather at City Hall (Federal Hall) at noon on July 18 'to deliberate upon the proper mode of communicating to the President their disapprobation of the English treaty.' Boston citizens had issued a blanket condemnation of the Jay Treaty, and Hamilton feared a bandwagon effect. Already leaders of the Democratic clubs were delivering heated antitreaty speeches on Manhattan street corners. To devise ways to blunt the gathering, the business community summoned a meeting at the Tontine Coffee House on the night of the seventeenth at which Hamilton and Rufus King endorsed the Jay Treaty. They appealed to supporters to show up at City Hall the next day and stage a counter-demonstration.
As the clock tolled twelve the next day, Hamilton took up a position on the stoop of an old Dutch building on the west side of Broad Street, right across from City Hall. More than five thousand people had squeezed into the intersection where George Washington had taken the oath as president in 1789. But the scene of concord six years earlier now witnessed one of the uglier clashes in the early republic. From his stoop, Hamilton shouted out and demanded to know who had convened the meeting. The irate crowd shouted back in response, 'Let us have a chairman.' Colonel William S. Smith, John Adams's son-in-law, was chosen and presided from the balcony of City Hall. Peter R. Livingston began to speak against the Jay Treaty, but he was brusquely interrupted by Hamilton, who questioned his right to speak first. When a vote was taken, the vast majority of those present favored Livingston, who resumed his oration. But there was so much heckling, such a tremendous din of voices, that Livingston could not be heard, and he suggested to treaty opponents that they move down Wall Street toward Trinity Church.
Not all treaty critics drifted away, however, and about five hundred listened in a surly mood as Hamilton began his ringing defense. According to one newspaper, Hamilton stressed 'the necessity of a full discussion before the citizens could form their opinions. Very few sentences, however, could be heard on account of hissings, coughings, and hootings, which entirely prevented his proceeding.' This was a remarkable spectacle: the former treasury secretary had descended from Mount Olympus to expose himself to street hecklers. John Church Hamilton contends that when his father asked the demonstrators to show respect, he was greeted 'by a volume of stones, one of which struck his forehead. When bowing, he remarked, 'If you use such knock-down arguments, I must retire.' Federalist Seth Johnson confirmed the tale: 'Stones were thrown at Mr. Hamilton one of which grazed his head,' while another indignant Federalist said that the 'Jacobins were prudent to endeavour to knock out Hamilton's brains to reduce him to an equality with themselves.' Before long, treaty opponents stormed down to the Battery, formed a circle, and ceremonially burned a copy of the Jay Treaty. When Jefferson heard about Hamilton being stoned in the street, he didn't react with horror or sadness; rather, he was elated, telling Madison that 'the Livingstonians appealed to stones and clubs and beat him and his party off the ground.' Evidently, Jefferson thought this would delight the author of the Bill of Rights."
Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow
