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Ambushed Marines' Aid Call 'Rejected'
Military.com ^ | 09/10/09 | Military.com

Posted on 09/16/2009 7:02:22 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

NATO-led forces are investigating the death of four Marines in eastern Afghanistan after their commanders reportedly rejected requests for artillery fire in a battle with insurgents, the Pentagon said on Wednesday. Tuesday's incident was "under investigation" and details remained unclear, press secretary Geoff Morrell told a news conference. A McClatchy newspapers' journalist who witnessed the battle reported that a team of Marine trainers made repeated appeals for air and artillery support after being pinned down by insurgents in the village of Ganjgal in eastern Kunar province. The U.S. troops had to wait more than an hour for attack helicopters to come to their aid and their appeal for artillery fire was rejected, with commanders citing new rules designed to avoid civilian casualties, the report said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; gwot; marine; marines; mhmmdnsm09162009; nato; obamasfault; veterans; vets; waronterror; wot
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To: 444Flyer

Sorry hero:
What am I looking for?

Thanks for the ping


181 posted on 09/17/2009 9:03:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Follow up to:

“’We’re pinned down:’ 4 U.S. Marines die in Afghan ambush”


182 posted on 09/17/2009 9:06:54 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: 444Flyer

Fantabulous! A BiG Thank You for working so hard on this!

bump!


183 posted on 09/17/2009 9:09:40 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Alberta's Child

Do you mean the truck bomb that blew up the Marine barracks? if so that is a reflection of the garrison security not a lack of air and artillery support.


184 posted on 09/17/2009 9:09:54 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

185 posted on 09/17/2009 9:10:19 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

For our Bravest.:)


186 posted on 09/17/2009 9:10:25 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

BTTT


187 posted on 09/17/2009 9:13:24 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: 444Flyer

Thanks for the ping!


188 posted on 09/17/2009 9:13:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 444Flyer

Amen! God bless our soldiers, and thank you to all who have served our country.


189 posted on 09/17/2009 9:14:21 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: 444Flyer

Just want to fit this in here, a propos of nothing at all.

Remember when the USS Cole was bombed off of Aden, South Yemen?

After the bomb-laden zodiac hit, there were deaths and there was a real chance that the ship would sink. The men knew very clearly they were under deadly attack.

Men rushed topside to guard against the possibility of follow-up attack, of course.

Do you know they were forbidden to have live ammunition? I’m serious.

I don’t mean that there had been left-over orders for no ammo —I’m saying that immediately following the attack the Captain specifically forbade possession of live ammo by anyone on deck IN ORDER TO PREVENT ANY UNWARRANTED AGGRESSION OR ACCIDENT. The men were wildly brandishing and waving their weapons around, and no way had any way of firing them.

That’s the kind of discipline and inertia that existed at least at that point, and I think we’re seeing that a bit here, too.

Oh —the USMC explosion in Lebanon? The guards at the gate did not have live ammo in their rifles, and that was for the same reason —to protect against the possibility that there might be an accident or unwarranted arms discharge.

I have heard that the enemy somehow learned that the guards did not have live ammo, but I don’t know if that was true.


190 posted on 09/17/2009 9:16:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Clinton crap? Was it like this under Bush?


191 posted on 09/17/2009 9:22:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: 444Flyer

They keep saying 4 Marines but it was three dead Marines and a dead Sailor.

There was also US Army wounded and 8 dead Afghan soldiers and police and a civilian Marine interpreter.

This was a combined operation of 13 American trainers and about 80 Afghans.


192 posted on 09/17/2009 9:26:14 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: 444Flyer

IMHO, considering it was a LT, a Corpsman, a GySgt and a SSgt who were killed after their calls for fire were not supported due to rules of engagement, I suspect their judgment call on the ground was far better placed than those who overturned them. On principle, even an NCO and three PFCs should still have been supported, but strongly appears there was a considerable more seasoned wherewithal making those calls for fire. Don’t count on meeting reenlistment goals in that battalion.


193 posted on 09/17/2009 9:28:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: 444Flyer
God bless America. I love the photo of that flag you dropped on this thread...amidst the turnoil, the chaos, the naarcht and the fog of war where our leaders seemingly have NARY A CLUE( IOE's they don't know sh*t) that flag

OUR Flag the flag G!D gave us to serve and protect

To uphold the Christian values our country SIGNIFITES and was founded on...>/p>

...and the flag to remind us to our dying day,

WE are AMERICANS no matter the skin color

Or what the idiots trlr-prompters spews.

UNITED WE STAND...never forget,/p>

GOD BLESS AMERICA

194 posted on 09/17/2009 10:36:54 PM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: Cvengr
It sounds to me like they were backed into a hole, both by the ROE’s, their superiors and the enemy. Reups will take a dive if they keep this up.
195 posted on 09/17/2009 10:43:10 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Karliner

Right on.


196 posted on 09/17/2009 10:44:42 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: ansel12
You would think that it being Military.com they would have corrected it.

It doesn't give due respect Ansel.

197 posted on 09/17/2009 10:49:45 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: gaijin
How to lose.
198 posted on 09/17/2009 10:52:33 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: 444Flyer; FARS

Thanks for the ping. Our military no longer has the support of the administration. These are sad and dangerous times.

God bless our military.


199 posted on 09/18/2009 12:29:53 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Very sad!

If either of my boys are killed or wounded due to some left wing loon ROEs there will be hell to pay!! I will hold someone responsible!

Reason after reason to end this chirade of leadership in Washington. The left alway holds up Vietnam as an example of the defeat of imperial America when in fact that war was a democrat debacle. We don’t need another planned failure. Get the troops out or let them win!

Prayers for the families of those fine young Americans!


200 posted on 09/18/2009 12:54:12 AM PDT by timetostand
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