Posted on 09/10/2009 9:42:35 PM PDT by moonpie57
I just talked to Orly:
She has 2 good news items that she is very busy with right now:
1. Judge Carter is ‘giving her expedited discovery - immediately’.
2. Judge Land will allow her to present before the court in GA. She is leaving now to fly to GA to appear before Judge Land at the Federal Building in Columbus, GA at 2:00 pm tomorrow (Friday, 9/11/09).
She would like as many military supporters to be there as possible. I called Carl Swensson (RiseUpForAmerica.com), and he will see what he can do. If you have any contacts there, please advise them.
(Excerpt) Read more at resistnet.com ...
In all honesty, I am a few steps outside my field of expertise on this.
I believe the COLB would be admissible because it would essentially be a government document attesting to the facts contained in another government document.
To use a completely non-legal term, it would be “good enough” to prove place of birth, which would render everything else, as you say, moot.
I sent that link to the author of the story. Maybe he can enlighten us.
Excellent! I hope they respond.
If Defendants submitted a COLB with a MTD its not about standing..
No I did not have to get “snarky”. I like a nice polite discussion, but when one person seems to be arrogant and know it all and just signed up yesterday I tend to get a little “snarky” My apologies to you if you are not teaming up with the troll, our next AG stevie86.
Berg may be a Birther and a Truther, and he may well be a crackpot. But he's also an attorney.
You know what? Forget it. I only care about Orly at this point.
I think she's the only one going at it full steam in the courtroom. I believe Berg and Donofrio have both given up on their suits after multiple turn-downs at various stages of the process.
If she doesn’t get a reality show at the end of this, I am going to be deeply depressed.
"Reality" and "Orly Taitz" don't often collide in the same sentence.
My puzzlement is why anyone would help him. If we are silenced, guess who's next.
“If Defendants submitted a COLB with a MTD its not about standing..”
True, but I did not say that. I was speaking to an earlier question regarding the things the 0 team might try to end the case before more damaging documents (if they exist) come out. If the MTD were denied, they could try another motion to stop discovery and to dismiss based on the COLB as sufficient and dispositive proof of the ultimate issue.
“If Defendants submitted a COLB with a MTD its not about standing..”
True, but I did not say that. I was speaking to an earlier question regarding the things the 0 team might try to end the case before more damaging documents (if they exist) come out. If the MTD were denied, they could try another motion to stop discovery and to dismiss based on the COLB as sufficient and dispositive proof of the ultimate issue.
I apologize for being a know it all. I can be arrogant - I gotta be me. And I was immediately called “troll” for trying to talk about this as a legal issue.
Out of curiosity, are there any attorneys on FR who actually take the birther position? I watched these threads for about two weeks before signing on. It seems like anyone with any legal background is taking a very very very cautious approach to this issue.
ok still waiting for an answer since you presented yourself as our teacher:
How many trials have you been lead counsel on? Have you ever litigated a case to completion? How many courtrooms have you been in besides as field trips or as a defendant? I can’t wait to see your “ideas” on NBC and Immigration Law. What else are you going to school us buckheads at FR on? What’s the frequency Kenneth?
I’m not “teaming up” with anyone per se, but stevie86 and I were on the same discussion regarding when and how the COLB might be brought into play. Someone thought that 0 would have to produce his Vital Statistics records if subpeonas/doc demands are served and I thought stevie86 was answering by suggesting they might try to avoid having to produce such record using this other dismissal application based on the COLB.
Thanks for the apology. You sound like you’ve got a strong litigation background. It’s good to have you’re knowledge and experience in the conversation.
oooops again ....your knowledge...
I worked for six months in a firm and decided that I hated it. I’ve been in various in house counsel jobs for various healthcare companies for the past 10 years. So, in the rare cases where litigation becomes necessary (I see my job as avoiding litigation), I work with outside counsel hired to represent us; I do not personally litigate. I have not been inside a courtroom as a practicing attorney since 2000.
So obviously, a housewife in Nebraska knows just as much as I do about civil procedure.
It is not just a matter of okay, I got caught, I will leave now. A crime against the people happened here and people were kept from a eligible nominee. Many others covering obamas hide are complicit. It’s a part of the Constitution that has simply never ajudicated.
Yeah,I read something on that. Then others bring up cases that state it was handled. Then obama supporters say even obama's eligibility has been settled and of course it hasn't in any court.
ohhh, acorn caught in washington DC on foxnews now.
Still curious what you think about this question:
Do you mean the COLB is not ‘best evidence’ because it represents the content of another document? I’m not familiar with how that issue falls. I just remember that the best evidence rule applies to photocopies as opposed to originals.
I don’t know what ‘birther’ means any more. If it means someone who thinks there have been some legitimate questions raised about 0’s eligibility, then I’m a birther. If it means someone who blindly “believes” that 0 was not born in the US or is otherwise not a natural born citizen, I’m not a birther.
Fair point.
But if Orly somehow proves everything you suggest she will, she won’t suddenly morph into a prosecutor in the middle of the case.
Not for nothing, but the statute of limitations for fraud is 2 years.
In the dark recesses in the back of my mind, I have wondered if this is one big diversion. Like a ventriloquists dummy, he gives attention the the dummy while the real business is going on with the ventriloquist.
Sometimes its not what you see thats important, its what you don’t see...
Just one more possibility.
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