Judge Carter is Granting us Expedited Discovery Immediately

Resistnet ^ | September 10, 2009 | Phil Dedrick

[OafOfOffice]

Glenn Beck to even acknowledge this would be strange since he told off all callers who dared to bring up the BC issue. He said no more and he hung up on a couple people really angry.

[steviep96]

I am now officially obsessed with Orly Taitz.

It’s interesting to be in the same profession with someone and to have no earthly idea what she is talking about.

How can I make the analogy?

Imagine being a doctor. And hearing from another doctor that he was going to perform a churchillectomy on someone’s tongue.

It’s a bit like that.

[thecraw]

Shall we go to DC and stand before the White House and yell “GET OUT OF CHENEY”S HOUSE!”?

LOL. I'd be happy to do that. I'm heading to DC tonight for the big march tomorrow anyway. Unfortunately we won't be able to get close enough for the Kenyan usurper to hear us!

[OafOfOffice]

If Obama’s BC is shown and it reads he was born in Kenya, I do not think anything will be done. He will say some stupid thing like it was not my fault my mother went there, I am American.

BUT if the courts do as they should and say he is illegitimate, then the two documents Pelosi signed and then sending the one without constitutional wording to the states, it seems to me would mean everyone involved must be impeached and the whole election would be fraud.

It does not make sense to me that Biden knowing of the fraud would be allowed to stay anywhere near the capital in any position. Pelosi should go to prison. Cheney is involved too because he did not speak out when his name was added to the lawsuit.

My one other thought, maybe republicans knew about Obama too but they wanted to end the democratic party for good. For many years by giving America a glimpse of evil in the dem party.

I think no matter what comes out, he will get away with it. There are mafia like powers behind Obama and the name is Soros.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

Actually, Coulter (and a number of other squishy-cons) do not want Obama removed until at least the end of his term...because they stand to make money on books, TV, media radio, etc....

Ever check Fox News ratings recently? Obama has been good for buisness

You think Michelle Malkin wants Birthers to succeed? She has the NYT #1 bestseller....Obama been good for business

These people who ignore the Birther issue just enable Obama. Cannot believe that these people, who report and research all kinds of Obama related stories....are ignoring this one out of “fear”. Removing Obama means the “gravy train” is over....

[OafOfOffice]

Just saw BO at the WH for the 911 Moment Of Silence. It was very creepy.

When he spoke he acted like he could barely get the words out. He can't say much because he will upset his radical groups. Rev Wright, Farakhan and radical Islam.

[OafOfOffice]

I think the rioting thing is a scare tactic. It will happen but on a small scale. I don’t have any minority friends who are backing obama now. They want him out.

[Frantzie]

I understand Coulter’s possible concerns along with (boring) Boortz, Medved, Ingraham, tedious Hugh Hewitt and all the other Harvey Milktoast types worried about the Fairness Doctrine.

Instead of smearing Constitutionalists as Birthers and kooks, they could have said no comment. Instead - they gleefully piled on and smeared “birthers.”

They are all Juan McCain, Graham-nesty, Collins, Snowe, and Arlen Specter RINOs & backstabbers in my book now.

[Frantzie]

Anyone know anything about this Judge Land case in GA? Orly and the others need to keep starting military cases with local attorneys around the country. I think The Republic hinges on Judge Carter.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

Glenn Beck to even acknowledge this would be strange since he told off all callers who dared to bring up the BC issue. He said no more and he hung up on a couple people really angry.

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Not only that....Beck on his TV show this week stated “Bill O’Reilly is my friend”.

Dude has gone Fonzie....he has definitely “jumped the shark”.

Sad part is that Beck has let FNC run his program...something he did not do while on CNN

[Jen]

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[JewishRighter]

If someone already made this point, please forgive me:

Assuming that Obama has real eligibility problems, Obama’s team MUST take every action they possibly can to avoid making this a test of whether he can prove eligibility based on natural born citizen status. In practical terms, they need to avoid discovery which compels them to produce his birth records or other proofs of his natural born status. Likewise, they need to do everything possible to block Taitz’s ability to obtain any documentation that proves the contrary.

This may sound like an oversimplification, but it is useful for trying to anticipate Obama’s strategy. They must try to block discovery any way they can. First, they must attempt to have the motion to dismiss heard before any discovery takes place. If the motion is denied, they will move for reconsideration, and/or seek to take an appeal to the Federal Circuit Court and from there, to the Supreme Court. All the while, they will be fighting for a stay of discovery to block it while the questions of standing, jurisdiction, justiciability and so on are being adjudicated.

A second line of attack is to seek to obstruct any discovery that is allowed. For example, they will file motions for protective orders barring whatever discovery they can. Typically, the court is supposed to give broad latitude for discovery of any information that is likely to be relevant or to lead to relevant evidence regarding the issues in the case. For those of us who remember the Clinton litigations, they can still use this kind of motion practice to obstruct and delay the issue for months and years, including attempts to appeal every ruling along the way.

I’m not saying this to be discouraging. To the contrary, I’m trying to provide an outline of what to expect as these people are fighting a political life and death struggle for 0. The stakes are the highest imaginable, except possibly treason. Anticipating what they will do will enable us to know how patient and determined we have to be and how Ms. Taitz will possibly need support over the long haul.

One positive note shines through from Judge Carter’s comments: he seems inclined to have the issue determined as soon as possible because the unresolved question is disrupting confidence in the President’s legitimacy at many levels, most crucially the military. If Carter is true to his Marine background (and I have to assume so, even if there are also Murtha’s out there), he may insist that any motions are disposed of quickly and a trial held as soon as possible. He must be strong, because Obama’s got the biggest law firm in the world on his side.

I’d love to hear some feedback on this, especially from FReeper members of the bar.

[Vendome]

If this is true, What is the date for discovery?

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures, online,  that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?  It is a computer generated "picture, jpg, gif, whatever" not a scan.
• The COLB, online,  also has no artifacts such as paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used to obtain his first passport. That wasn't available?  Where is it and why not use that one?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

So we know he most certainly had and had acces three BC’s and not a COLB(Hawaii didn't start issuing them until 2001). There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

 It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

[Frantzie]

I will take rioting versus a final plunge into a major Depression and poilce state which is where we are headed. It will happen a lot faster than you think too.

There are ways to fix it and avoid a Depression but time is running out.

I think if he is exposed as illigitimate and he tries to hang on then things will fall apart. The military will not have to follow his orders. You will have doznes of lawsuits by thousands of troops. Anything he signs will be meaningless.

[3D-JOY]

Is this based upon returning to the last legally elected?

Often this is the system used (Robert's Rules?) to not allow an office to be unattended. Constitutionally accepted?

Bush has served full terms as allowed.

Cheney moves up until a valid election?

This was discussed a long time ago, but nothing I have read recently lends any life to this system of replacement.

[OafOfOffice]

I agree with you. It is just that with obama owning MSM and seemingly scotus, I think what might happen is a formal case will be opened as to what natural born means. Obama thugs, DOJ will tell the courts what it means.

[Vendome]

MHGinTN:
Does she have any way to compell Barry O. to produce, at least, the BC he found among his mothers belongings?

As well, the process of Obtaining his fake COLB and the documents supporting it?

Thanks

[STARWISE]

Pathetic, isn’t it ? Strains every inch of
one’s credulity.

[Vendome]

Unnamed sources?

[bvw]

Yes.