[Sig Sauer P220]

WT F Nan!

[dinodino]

Well, kind of looks like fraud at the highest levels of this Administration, doesn’t it?

[dinodino]

Well, kind of looks like fraud at the highest levels of this Administration, doesn’t it?

[RobinMasters]

Ping.

[Seaplaner]

We need an expert in the subject of forgery and elections to evaluate these docs.

Paging Dan Rather...

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[kitkat]

Very interesting. Both were signed on the same date, and by the same notary.

[Brookhaven]

There is already one article floating around that is saying because his mother was a citizen, Obama is a natural born citizen.

I found an interesting citizenship synopsis here: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

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Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States *

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

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This site, that is supposed to be a guide to the constitution (and pops up #1 in a google search of "citizenship constitution" is redefining natrual-born to mean that even if you are born on foriegn soil, as long as ONE parent is a citizen, you are a natrual-born citizen.

[null and void]

...and when did she know it?

[cvq3842]

VERY intriguing report. I would have both documents authenticated and then ask whether this has ever happened before. Make sure there is no standard practice with two forms submitted for different purposes or whatnot. Just trying to cover all the bases.

Maybe one day someone will just ask Obama about this. But I guess I’m expecting far too much. I’d like to live in a country where the media asks tough questions, though.

Actually, this shouldn’t even be a tough question . . .

[chiefqc]

If, it is ever discovered the “Mack Daddy the Zebra” was not eligible to be POTUS everything he signed or approved should become void, and anyone who knew and did nothing should be tried for treason or at the very lease be removed from office forever, lose any and all benefits and fined $500,000.00 and placed in jail until paid.

[Dinah Lord]

Hmm. Could the notary public also be this Shalifa, I wonder?

From before the convention

Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean and members of the Democratic National Convention Committee picked up paintbrushes to help refurbish a classroom at a local school Thursday.

The paint and plaster job at Manual High School was part of a Volunteers of America project to renovate the building and to keep the community interested in the school.

Manual was closed for a year due to declining enrollment and low student performance, but faculty, alumni and community organizers were able to get it re-opened.

"This is a very gutsy, risky thing to do," said Dean about the re-opening of the school. "This could be a model for the rest of the country, if it works. That's the challenge for the principal and school board, making it work."

Shalifa Williamson of Aurora said she's enjoying doing public service projects with other Democratic staffers from around the country.

"It's like a big happy family now," she said. "But see my paint stroke? It's getting more and more polished. My dad will be impressed."

[LurkedLongEnough]

bttt

[badgerlandjim]

bump

[The Comedian]

[Two Kids' Dad]

Clearly there are differences in the signatures as well, so someone can’t just claim it’s a right wing Photoshop job. Funny that the one with the “Received” stamp is the one without the qualification clause.

Pelosi knows that something’s up.

[Para-Ord.45]

bm

[LucyT]

Thanks, RobinMasters and Cyropaedia.

[penelopesire]

PING!

[Vendome]

I would like to see other certifications for Bush, Clinton, etc. before I jump on this one.

[Shqipo]

Since this was initially posted several weeks ago, I've thought there's likely a blockbuster revelation behind it. I still do.