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Birth of a New Political Party
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 4 September 2009 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 09/04/2009 8:06:05 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

by John Armor (BB 670, Even, 4 Sept, 707 words)

The last time a new American political party came into being, one strong enough to elect a President, was in 1854. As you have guessed, that was the Republican Party. Its first elected President was Abraham Lincoln in 1860.

Many third party and independent campaigns have been mounted since then. The Progressive Party around 1900 managed to elect Governors and majorities in the legislature of several states. Their high water mark was in 1912, when former President Teddy Roosevelt chose that Party as his vehicle to run again when the Republicans declined to nominate him, again. (No, there never was a “Bull Moose Party.” Don’t send letters and postcards claiming that there was.)

What’s the relevance of this ancient history to the off-year, congressional election in 2010? Well, take a look at that history and see what seems familiar.

The Republican Party began with a meeting in Ripon, Wisconsin, in 1854. Present were members of the Free Soil Party (favoring continued homesteading rights) and Conscience Whigs (northern Whigs separated from their southern members over slavery). The meeting was led by a disgruntled Democrat (who also split with his Party on slavery).

Remember this point. The new Party was created by people who had been elected under other party labels, but became dissatisfied with their current parties’ stands on key issues. The current two major parties are both fractured over key issues, including taxes, public debt, growth of government regulations, and respect for the Constitution.

All new party efforts since 1854 have failed at the national level. The reason for that unbroken history of failure is because all those new party efforts sought to reinvent the wheel and create parties from scratch. All successful efforts up to 1854 followed a different path. In the successful examples, elected officials changed their party labels, and later captured the support of voters who’d made the same shifts.

In 1856 the Republican candidate, John Fremont, won a third of the votes though his Party wasn’t one of the two strongest parties, going into that election. By 1858, the Republicans held a majority in Congress, not because they had elected a majority of the Senators and Representatives. They elected many. But the Members who put them over the top had been elected under other party labels, but switched to the Republicans.

All right, what is the situation of the current major parties? The Democrats are split into three groups, the hard left, the center, and the moderate right. There is no love lost between the right and left wings of that Party. Votes coming up in Congress will probably demonstrate that the wings of the Democrats hate each other enough so they will refuse to vote together.

The Republican Party is also fractured, into the hard right, and the squishy moderates. The hatred within the Party may be less, but the refusal to hold together for votes in Congress will be equally apparent.

And where do the American people stand? They have contempt for both the Republican and Democrat Parties. On the issues, public opinion is more against the Democrats than Republicans. Experts on both sides of the aisle expect the Democrats to lose seats in both Houses of Congress in 2010. But because the Republicans are also disrespected, they will probably will not win a majority in either House.

Some Republicans talk of “rebranding the Party.” Such efforts will fail. Just because the cat has kittens in the oven, doesn’t make them biscuits. However, if a majority of Republicans and a minority of Democrats all support these four issues -- obey the Constitution, cut taxes, reduce government control of lives of Americans, and support term limits – as a group they will dominate the elections and control both Houses of Congress.

What label will they adopt? The Tea Party Party is too casual. They will dump the current leaders of both Houses of Congress, assuming that Senator Reid has not already been dumped by his Nevada constituents, a preliminary shock heralding the coming earthquake.

No pundits are currently talking about this new party possibility. It is a long shot. But those who ignore the political history of American parties do not even realize this has happened several times before, and can happen again.

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About the Author: John Armor practiced in the US Supreme Court for 33 years. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu His latest book, on Thomas Paine, is available here: www.TheseAreTheTimes.us (Note the suffix, .us)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010election; lincoln; republicans; rnc; teaparty; thirdparty
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Okay, so I'm a nut about US political history. This has happened before. It can happen again.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 09/04/2009 8:06:07 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

Right now, I would not vote Republican, and of course, will not vote dim-bulb-crat. So, perhaps a new party is in order if the Repubs cannot get rid of the idiots running the party and find someone who can spell “leadership”.


2 posted on 09/04/2009 8:07:34 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Congressman Billybob
"However, if a majority of Republicans and a minority of Democrats all support these four issues -- obey the Constitution, cut taxes, reduce government control of lives of Americans, and support term limits..."

IF that happens....we'd call them REAL REPUBLICANS! and Americans!

3 posted on 09/04/2009 8:08:01 PM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
A viable 3rd party candidate running in 2012 is the only way in the world the zero could be reelected.

Don't fall for this.

Reforming and redirecting the republican party needs to be our focus. We will accomplish nothing excepting the reelection of the zero with a 3rd party.

4 posted on 09/04/2009 8:08:36 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Call it the Patriot Party. Instead of an animal as a mascot let them have a tea bag for a mascot.


5 posted on 09/04/2009 8:08:52 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Just got up from Bedroomshire)
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To: goodnesswins

The Conservative Party


6 posted on 09/04/2009 8:09:32 PM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: Congressman Billybob

I may have pointed this out to you before but many years ago, Eric Sevareid said that major parties have not degenerated into 3rd parties (maybe you could argue this part), and that 3rd parties do not rise to the level of major parties....small sample size though...


7 posted on 09/04/2009 8:10:33 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Linda Frances

“The Conservative Party”...yep...that’s what REAL REPUBLICAN’S USED TO BE!!!


8 posted on 09/04/2009 8:12:09 PM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: Uncle Ike

bttt


9 posted on 09/04/2009 8:12:19 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Screw that..I’m gonna take my Party back ! The Party of Reagan! We will lead it...forget the business managers and smooth talkers in the RNC..get the hell out of the way! We will lead and you (RNC)will follow We the People!


10 posted on 09/04/2009 8:12:21 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: Da Coyote

Geez... they will have to choose a mascot...what will it be...what will go up against the elephant and the donkey?


11 posted on 09/04/2009 8:13:28 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have m ercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Linda Frances

Two votes for Conserative Party, Me and Mrs. TaMoDee.


12 posted on 09/04/2009 8:13:45 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: Congressman Billybob

How do social conservatives fit into the new party?


13 posted on 09/04/2009 8:15:15 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Congressman Billybob; fieldmarshaldj; ejonesie22; greyfoxx39; Impy; ...
A viable 3rd party candidate running in 2012 is the only way in the world the zero could be reelected. Don't fall for this.

Stuff it.

If a RINO like Romney captures the nomination, I'm going third-party (Constitution or Libertarian) again. And this time, I'm not going to waffle like I did with McNuts.

14 posted on 09/04/2009 8:15:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the American Republic.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Congressman Billybob, we are in total agreement with you. Everytime I get an envelope from the Republicans, I don't even bother opening it - it goes straight into the grinder! The image below says it all as to how we feel about the Republican party.


Congressman Billybobp, we like this image of Sarah and Reagan as well.


Here's to You Sarah - maybe it should be called the

"Palin Party"




Go Sarah Go!
Run Sarah Run!!


15 posted on 09/04/2009 8:16:12 PM PDT by B-Cause (It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived.)
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To: antceecee; Man50D
Geez... they will have to choose a mascot...what will it be...what will go up against the elephant and the donkey?


16 posted on 09/04/2009 8:17:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the American Republic.)
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To: rabscuttle385

In other words, Obambi 2012.


17 posted on 09/04/2009 8:18:04 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Congressman Billybob

With all due respect, I believe that the patriotic right would effectively doom the republic to an historic failure, and hand a monumental victory to the evil, Marxist, left by creating a third party at this pivotal and perilous moment.

The America of our forefathers and of the Founders would likely not survive intact from such a move by our side.

As much as many of us are disgusted with the Republican party, the answer is NOT to abandon that recognized and established base of power, to begin creating a new one.

If we politically fracture ourselves a la 1992, we will endure something much worse than Clinton - or even Obama.

Strategically, I don’t believe that we have any choice but to re-take the Republican party as our first line of attack against the treasonous left.


18 posted on 09/04/2009 8:19:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
thanks, for the information / thread / post.

19 posted on 09/04/2009 8:20:04 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: rabscuttle385
I said nothing whatsoever about the election of 2012. If a new majority can take over Congress in 2010, whatever it is called, it can by 2012 take over the shell of the Republican Party, rename it, and be the only game in town to run against Obama in 2012.

That, too, is part of the early history of all of the "take over" parties, beginning with the Republican-Democrats.

Read with better care, next time. John / Billybob

20 posted on 09/04/2009 8:21:21 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Tom Paine and the future of America: www.TheseAreTheTimes.us)
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