Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Detroit sets record for unemployment
michiganmessenger.com ^ | 8/28/09 | Ed Brayton

Posted on 08/31/2009 4:41:02 PM PDT by Kartographer

While the state of Michigan has the highest unemployment rate of any state in the nation, the city of Detroit leads the way for cities. For the month of July, the unemployment rate in Detroit stood at a staggering 28.9% — and that’s probably undercounted in the same way all unemployment figures are due to the way such rates are measured. Still, it’s the highest rate on record for Detroit.

(Excerpt) Read more at 25574 ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: unemployment
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 next last
To: socialismislost

Not so. If you are still looking for a job, you are still counted.

They also count people who have just entered the workforce, and are not eligible for unemployment benefits.


21 posted on 08/31/2009 5:45:15 PM PDT by proxy_user
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: proxy_user

What would be interesting to me is how exactly they count people who’ve lost unemployment but are looking for work. How does the government know someone is “looking” for work? Or have “given up looking” for work?

Im thinking your last sentence means people turning a legal age or entering the workforce brand new.


22 posted on 08/31/2009 5:50:33 PM PDT by socialismislost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: kempster

Need more democrats to behave like Dave Bing.


23 posted on 08/31/2009 5:52:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
The Detoilet unemployment figure is that high because the gubbmint does not count ho's, pimps, and drug dealers as "employed". Granted, most of them are collecting welfare, but they are working.

Otherwise, the number would be closer to the national average of 9.4%...

24 posted on 08/31/2009 6:12:08 PM PDT by Gritty (America needs to go through a certain de-Nazification process -George Soros at Davos, Switzerland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: socialismislost

The Bureau of Labor Statistics explains their methodology on their web page:

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

New entrants can be a wide variety of people who have not worked recently. A woman who has finished raising her children, a college graduate, a guy who retired and discovered he is running out of money.....


25 posted on 08/31/2009 6:16:18 PM PDT by proxy_user
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

That’s the guy who created Microsoft’s search engine?


26 posted on 08/31/2009 8:20:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think its just a lucky coincidence for him.

Detroit voted for a sports star and is probably surpised that they didn’t get a gangster.


27 posted on 09/01/2009 3:12:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
More than a sports star, a business man.

More inside the rustbelt stuff for those not from Michigan:

Crane's Business on WJR yesterday noted they are expecting another 10% decline in real-estate values.

I am still waiting for the link, but one of my auto gnomes found an editorial from some analyst that nailed it that GM will fail and go Chapter 11 again...

Go over the the Detroit Newspapers. Bing went to Moody's in Chicago my guess to beg them not to derate their Muni Bonds further. He has, or a former finance guy has stated they have 3 months to turn the city around or they will be chapter 11. This is a warning sign for all Blue States/failed business models i.e Blue Cities, just like GM was red flagged by George Will three years ago.

State revenue shortfalls below:

Michigan State And Local Tax published a new entry entitled "Michigan State Budget Shortfall May Result In Tax Increases" on 8/18/2009 12:54:00 PM, written by Ed Kisscorni.

Michigan State Budget Shortfall May Result In Tax Increases

The state collected $150 million less in May, June and July than fiscal analysts projected as part of the May Consensus Revenue Estimating Conference (CREC), according to numbers released last week Tuesday by the House Fiscal Agency (HFA). That means a bigger problem next year, but not necessarily more budget cuts for this fiscal year. The state still shouldn't have a problem balancing its books in Fiscal Year (FY) 2009, thanks to a cushion created by leftover federal stimulus money. But fiscal 2010 is a different story.

Any stimulus money used to balance the FY 2009 hole will be that much less money available to solve a FY 2010 problem that has recently been pegged at an eye-popping $2.8 billion. The FY 2008 budget shortfall was $1.7 billion which resulted in the now defeated use tax on services and ultimately the Michigan Business Tax (MBT) surcharge. The difference is that federal stimulus mone y could plug all but $1.2 billion of the hole. How much of that stimulus money lawmakers and the administration want to use to plug holes in the budget this year and how much they want to keep around for next year is still part of the "target" negotiations. Either way, both the House Fiscal Agency (HFA) and the Senate Fiscal Agency (SFA) have said that a structural change to the state's tax system is in order. State revenues are declining faster than the state's economy.

New Tax Revenue

Entertainment tickets, cigarettes and a small slice to the recently enacted movie production credits highlight the Governor’s latest budget-balancing list to legislative leaders, which includes a total of $685 million in new revenue, according to information obtained by MIRS. In exchange, the Governor would like to phase out the 21.99 percent surcharge on the Michigan Business Tax (MBT) over a three-year period starting in 2011.

Expanding the state's six-cent sales tax to entertainment events, a concept tied into the short-lived sales tax expansion to services in 2007, is the largest high-dollar revenue generator on the Governor's list. The "ticket tax" is estimated to bring in $87.3 million. The six-cent sales tax would also be applied to service contracts (on new appliances, etc.) and vending machines, bringing in $29 million and $28 million, respectively. Raising the state's cigarette tax from $2 to $2.25 is back on the list, but an earlier proposal floated to raise the beer tax is off, according to information obtained by MIRS.

Since the cigarette tax was raised from $1.25 to $2 in 2004, many smokers have gone to "rolling their own" cigarettes with loose tobacco. The Governor's proposal takes care of that, too, by doubling the tax on "Other Tobacco Products,&quo t; something estimated to bring in $45 million. The new plan puts a one penny tax on all water bottles sold in Michigan, bringing an estimated $17 million back into state coffers.

The state's new 42 percent film production credit, in which companies are reimbursed by the state for shooting movies, TV shows and other productions in Michigan, is cut 12 percent under the Governor's offering, which would save $7.8 million. The Senate's plan capped the credits at $50 million, saving the state around $98 million.

MIRS also has learned the Governor is proposing a cut in the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) from 20 percent to 15, which would save the state $83 million. Also being cut under the revised plan are two special carve-out credits currently enjoyed by the Michigan International Speedway (MIS) to the tune of $3.6 million.

As usual, the Governor is carting out some of her familiar list of "loophole closings" she's presented to the Legislature nearly every budget cycle, such as the elimination of the exemption on international and 1-800 telephone calls.

The legislature and the Governor will have to work it all out. However, one thing is sure; taxes will be going up.

Permalink: michiganstateandlocaltax.com/2009/08/18/michigan-state-budget-shortfall-may-result-in-tax-increases.aspx

28 posted on 09/01/2009 3:28:44 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: taildragger
This is the "money" paragraph below, read this again.

The "Stimulus" is keeping this State afloat from Chapter 11 IMHO, and they are taking in less money and the books are even harder to balance.

Any stimulus money used to balance the FY 2009 hole will be that much less money available to solve a FY 2010 problem that has recently been pegged at an eye-popping $2.8 billion. The FY 2008 budget shortfall was $1.7 billion which resulted in the now defeated use tax on services and ultimately the Michigan Business Tax (MBT) surcharge. The difference is that federal stimulus mone y could plug all but $1.2 billion of the hole. How much of that stimulus money lawmakers and the administration want to use to plug holes in the budget this year and how much they want to keep around for next year is still part of the "target" negotiations. Either way, both the House Fiscal Agency (HFA) and the Senate Fiscal Agency (SFA) have said that a structural change to the state's tax system is in order. State revenues are declining faster than the state's economy.

29 posted on 09/01/2009 3:32:07 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

These are very sobbering but need to be read. This is what happens when liberal Democrats run a city TOTALLY for 50 years.

http://www.collinsreport.net/2009/08/19/fifty-years-of-liberal-policies-forcing-detroit-to-a-60%e2%80%99s-style-%e2%80%9curban-farming%e2%80%9d-communes-to-survive

http://www.collinsreport.net/2009/07/22/detroit-on-the-brink-what-50-straight-years-of-democrat-rule-has-done-to-a-once-great-city/

http://www.collinsreport.net/2009/08/14/obama-again-uses-race-to-turn-america%e2%80%99s-republican-white-middle-class-suburbs-into-detroit/


30 posted on 09/01/2009 4:46:45 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
Please, sir...I want some more.

This unemployment rate is simply the tip of the iceberg.

31 posted on 09/01/2009 9:04:29 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grellis; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
28.9% -- and that's probably undercounted
That's because 10 per cent of the folks sent out to do the count never came back. ;')
32 posted on 09/03/2009 6:06:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
Sorry Eight Mile...queue Toyota commercial: You wanted it, you got it, 0bama.

5.56mm

33 posted on 09/03/2009 6:13:02 PM PDT by M Kehoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

I don't know why, but articles like this make me stop and wonder what kind of season the Lions are going to have...

34 posted on 09/03/2009 6:46:23 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Agreed. Dave Bing seems like a good mayor.


35 posted on 09/03/2009 6:49:20 PM PDT by madison10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

With the acres and acres of irredeemable wasteland, with an unemployment rate of near 30%, why is Deeetroit still allowed to be a city?

Should it not just be abolished?


36 posted on 09/03/2009 7:02:19 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

The city’ bloated unions won’t accept layoffs or a pay cut. Things are going to get worse there.


37 posted on 09/03/2009 7:44:34 PM PDT by Feasor13
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wetgundog

De La Salle ‘72 !!

Grandparent’s houses are empty lots.
My wife’s parent’s house burnt out hulk.
My parent’s house burnt out hulk.

What’s really sad is the days of walking anywhere and having fun are long gone. The resident insurgents killed Detroit with the ‘67 riots.


38 posted on 09/03/2009 11:17:22 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

Blown away yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDuAWfa2qxY


39 posted on 09/04/2009 6:49:04 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

No matter what, it will always be Bush’s fault!


40 posted on 09/04/2009 6:49:38 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson