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1 posted on 08/28/2009 10:55:35 AM PDT by UnbornChild
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To: UnbornChild
This is rediculous.
2 posted on 08/28/2009 10:58:08 AM PDT by unkus
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To: UnbornChild
This is rediculous.
3 posted on 08/28/2009 10:58:16 AM PDT by unkus
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To: UnbornChild

Joseph P. Kennedy senior...what is there in the Bible about the sins of the father being visited upon even to the third generation? click here
4 posted on 08/28/2009 10:58:24 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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I agree. Even though he might have confessed and received absolution, his life set a HORRIBLE example for Catholics, and put a foul and embarrassing face on Catholicism around the world. Hypocrisy like his should not be rewarded by the heirarchy of Boston. But then, they all believe any Kennedy is a lesser deity, so I suppose it is to be expected. I mentioned on another thread that penance, absolution, and communion would actually allow him to receive such honors, and got numerous replies thinking I thought he DESERVED such honor. Nothing could be further from the truth.

For the archbishop to actually participate in such a funeral would be a monstrous mockery, and a black eye for the Church in America.

5 posted on 08/28/2009 11:03:38 AM PDT by redhead (Demand that congress abide by the 10th Amendment. O-care is ILLEGAL.)
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Why should we expect him to respond to popular opinion? He never has in the past and most (if not all) of his decisions are based on political expediency and not religious doctrine.


6 posted on 08/28/2009 11:04:58 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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When there is public scandal given to Catholic faithful, a PUBLIC renunciation is required before the individual can be received back to the sacraments. If a private repentence was made, then yes, a private mass should follow - not a massive advertisement that implies a whitewashing of the grievous wrongs done.


9 posted on 08/28/2009 11:12:20 AM PDT by Kandy
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This guy is liable to sponaneously combust if they drag his body into a church. He was a disgusting drunkard. I have lived in MA most of my life and I can tell you that any beach area in New England (the Cape, the Vineyard and even Maine) - when the Kennedys hit the beach area there was guaranteed drunkeness and stupidity that followed. Up here no one called him on it. I generally ignored them as any “altercation” that included a Kennedy meant the cops were going to beat you to within an inch of your life and then buy the drunken Kennedy another drink.

Just watching the local cable outlet (NECN) and some of the people on there are saying things like “...I feel he, Bobby and John were part of OUR family..” which just has me thinking that most of my neighbors must be drunken, lecherous slobs. Truly amazing that there are atill this many Kennedy sycophants strolling around.


11 posted on 08/28/2009 11:13:33 AM PDT by IAintGotNoMoney
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Teddy is going to get his funeral! Afterall, it has been bought and paid for by the Kennedys I’m sure.


12 posted on 08/28/2009 11:16:02 AM PDT by Bitsy
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For all the sins of TMK, we have no clue whether he had a deathbed conversion or not.

Our Lord welcomes the worst sinner who repents.
I can’t tell you if he repented or not, but I would rather err on the side of forgiveness.

Lord knows, I’m a sinner too.


14 posted on 08/28/2009 11:19:00 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: UnbornChild

Done:

It reads:
As a Roman Catholic who entered the Church in 1992, pledging my allegiance to the Pope and the Magisterium, I am appalled at the Catholic Church’s laise faire attitude toward Catholic politicians who speak and act and vote in direct conflict with the Church and then, when they die, are treated as if they are royalty. Of course, I am speaking of Ted Kennedy and the plans to hold a public funeral for him. I suggest that the Catholic Church weakens her Christian witness to the world by having a public ceremony exalting Senator Kennedy, even if that is not the intent of the funeral service.

Mr. Kennedy was not a saint by any means. He got away with the murder, intentional or otherwise, of Mary Jo Kopechne. He was a known womanizer. He drank too excess and lived to excess. He lied about Judge Bork and caused the Judge to be denied a seat on the Supreme Court. He promoted Abortion on Demand. No matter what he did to help the poor while he was in the Senate, he never publicly admitted to any of the harm he had done nor did he publicly ask for forgiveness.

Please hold a private funeral for Ted Kennedy with no live television coverage. Allow the service to be between Ted Kennedy and God and not between the Catholic Church and the viewing audience. Funerals are somber times not circuses. Please, turn off the live televison cameras and offer Ted Kennedy a private Mass between his soul and the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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And hopefully, it will be effective and the good Cardinal will close the Mass and not allow live TV coverage. I’m praying for that, anyway.


15 posted on 08/28/2009 11:26:46 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (At Thermopylae, 1 Million Persians lost 20 Thousand yet failed to disarm 300 Spartans. Molon Labe!)
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You know, if I were a Catholic, this outrage of having a “high mass” for not only a baby killer but a cold blooded murderer would drive me right out of that religion. What hypocrisy.
(Of course, the child molestation by the priests and the complete attempts at cover-ups, would have already sent me packing years ago.)

This is a slap in the face to every Catholic who defends the protection of unborn children.

But hey, PT Barnum said it all years ago.


16 posted on 08/28/2009 11:27:08 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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Ted Kennedy was a Catholic democrat leader and Catholics vote democrat, how do we know that this Cardinal does not support the democrats except on (hopefully) abortion?

Massachusetts is a Catholic state and it’s politics and the 47 year reign of Ted Kennedy represents that.

We can’t pretend that Ted Kennedy was a renegade of some sort that was in office in spite of Catholicism, instead of because of it. Would Kennedy have won or held that seat for a half century if he were not Catholic?


17 posted on 08/28/2009 11:28:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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I guess the Catholic Church is OK with Kennedy’s stand on abortion.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 11:33:27 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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There is silence from Rome. For those with ears to hear this says alot.


21 posted on 08/28/2009 11:56:15 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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If O'Malley is forced to give him a public funeral, he should insist that he deliver the homily--and make it an impassioned plea to protect the unborn. You know, speaking the truth to power.

Nothing would drive the devil more crazy.
22 posted on 08/28/2009 11:59:09 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin will soon have more fans on Facebook than most major newspapers have readers.)
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To: UnbornChild

I’m a Catholic and I dont like Teddy. But every baptized Catholic, no matter their sins, is entitled to a Mass of Christian Burial. At baptism Teddy received a small “pall” and at his funeral another “pall” will be placed on the casket It’s all part of a 2000 year old ritual.This pall is a reminder of the white baptismal garment, a sign of the Christian dignity of the person. Just as the new Christian was clothed in the white garment when he or she became a member of the Church, the coffin is covered with a white cloth as the person enters into a new life in the resurrection of Jesus. however, baptism remains the fundamental identity. Other emblems should not displace Christian symbols reminding the community of the person’s baptism.


26 posted on 08/28/2009 1:16:42 PM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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Well the Cardinal changed his mind.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles_of_faith/2009/08/omalley_to_pres.html


29 posted on 08/28/2009 3:29:46 PM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Currington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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