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1 posted on 08/26/2009 5:42:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Ping!


2 posted on 08/26/2009 5:43:05 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Dr Who, wildlife photographer.


3 posted on 08/26/2009 5:45:36 PM PDT by dr_who
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Here's a Jagorothian spaceship that's about to undergo a pre-cambrian explosion.
6 posted on 08/26/2009 5:54:37 PM PDT by dr_who
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I call BS on this being the end of anything, there will always be debate on issues where the evidence is hundreds of millions of years old. Looks to be nicely photographed, however.


9 posted on 08/26/2009 5:59:46 PM PDT by bigbob
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Not to worry, all the Darwinists will declare all the scientists non-scientists for such heresy.

Pray for America


10 posted on 08/26/2009 6:06:51 PM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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SITREP


12 posted on 08/26/2009 6:37:49 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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Hey, I know, quote Darwin out of context! That'll really throw off the scientists!

(Hate to break it to you, in your 12th century goatherder's tent, but that's already been done ad nauseum by you types).

Of course the funny thing is that you don't believe the Cambrian explosion (530 million years ago) took place, since the world was only created at 9am on Oct 3, 4004 BC.

14 posted on 08/26/2009 6:46:20 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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I know this may come as a surprise, but I'm pretty much sure that no scientific paradigm that has been overturned and replaced because of a movie. Generally there's a bunch of claims and counterclaims, research and review, and then a slow acceptance by an overwhelming majority of those working directly in a specific field. So despite the claim that the “film does more than demolish a defunct idea” and “offers the only alternative that does explain the sudden appearance of all the animal phyla”, I'll just stick with good old fashioned science. You know, the kind scientists do.
15 posted on 08/26/2009 6:50:26 PM PDT by stormer
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The Cambrian Explosion has been explained (I saw it on the Discovery or History channel, I think, maybe).

1. Oxygen, so much oxygen it made everything evolve into really much more complicated forms. (The Breathe Deeply Theory).

2. Never happened, it just looks like it did. (The David Copperfield Theory).

3. It happened over such long time “explosion” is a misnomer. The Slow Boom of Bloom Theory).

On the other hand, I, I would like to see the but probably won’t be able to.

Cheers for the heads up!


16 posted on 08/26/2009 6:58:45 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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to read later


17 posted on 08/26/2009 7:08:20 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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bump


18 posted on 08/26/2009 7:11:59 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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Pong!


20 posted on 08/26/2009 7:42:53 PM PDT by YHAOS
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“This film does more than demolish a defunct idea. It offers the only alternative that does explain the sudden appearance of all the animal phyla: intelligent design.”

—“all” animal phyla?

From E. O. Wilson’s “The Diversity of Life”: “The number of living animal phyla … is about thirty-three. Of these, approximately twenty comprise animals large and abundant enough to leave fossils of the kind preserved in beds of the Burgess Shale type. The number of Cambrian phyla identified with confidence remains at eleven.”

That was in 2001. Doing a bit of research to see what the latest numbers are, it looks like there are now 36 animal phyla (due to some reclassifying), and of these about 17 are thought to be identified from the Cambrian fossil record (so almost half). And of these 17, most existed prior to the Cambrian Explosion (Porifera, Mollusca, Annelida, Cnidaria, and Arthropoda, and probably Chordata, Nematode, Echinodermata, Brachiopods, and Placozoa). Most of the rest are known to appear well after the Cambrian (e.g. Rotifers, Onychophora, Nematomorpha, Echiura, Annelida).

So of the 36 or so phyla, perhaps 7-10 originated during the Cambrian Explosion (and that number could shrink as the fossil record of the pre-Cambrian improves). There are many sources that say “most” phyla appeared during the CE, but from the data, that’s a pretty gross exaggeration. More phyla appeared both before, and after the CE, than what appeared during the CE itself.
Saying “all” animal phyla appeared during the CE is utterly asinine.

Also, many of the animals that are categorized into separate phyla during the Cambrian are actually very close morphologically. No sane taxonomist who happened to live at the time would have separated them into different phyla. The only reason we do so now is because, we, with hindsight, know how their descendents diversified. A good term I’ve heard for this is “retrospective coronation”.

“The Cambrian explosion, which Darwin admitted was the greatest challenge to his theory, has not been solved in the 150 years since The Origin. In fact, it has gotten much worse.”

—Actually, it’s gotten for less problematic. In Darwin’s time, many thought it was the birth of life – which was quite an issue considering that it already had multicellular life. At the time, no pre-Cambrian fossils were known. We now know that life extends back about 3 billion years before the CE. Multicellular life begins well over a billion years before the CE. And we now know that many animal phyla originate prior to the CE. The “Cambrian Explosion” has been fizzling.


27 posted on 08/27/2009 1:16:24 PM PDT by goodusername
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