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Real or Contrived? Lawmakers Argue Over Nature of Health Care Protests
FOXNews.com ^ | August 09, 2009

Posted on 08/09/2009 11:16:55 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000

Lawmakers battled Sunday over whether demonstrations against health care reform legislation at town hall meetings across the country are real or contrived.

One prominent Democrat continued to assert that scenes in which protesters are interrupting and shouting at reform proponents are "clearly being orchestrated," while the top Senate Republican said it's "absurd" for Democrats to criticize members of the public for being organized.

The fresh round of debate over the heated summertime sessions comes after a meeting in Des Moines with Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin was interrupted several times by critics in the audience. He drew outrage Saturday when he told the crowd there is a "nationally coordinated effort" to disrupt the town halls.

"How dare you claim that I'm part of a conspiracy," one man yelled, claiming he sent himself to the meeting.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, Ky., told "FOX News Sunday" that it's not clear who's organized and who's not but that Democrats' efforts to "demonize" the protesters reflect weak spots in the substance of their plan.

"I think attacking citizens in our country for expressing their opinions about an issue of this magnitude may indicate some weakness in their position on the merits," McConnell said. "And I also think it's particularly absurd for the Democrats, who have over an $8 million e-mail list over at the DNC called Organize America, to be criticizing citizens for being organized."

He said concerns over how the plan will be paid for are probably triggering a lot of the passion and tempers at the meetings, and predicted the tension will not slacken -- with dozens of other town hall meetings scheduled throughout the month of August.

However, McConnell said neither side should be trying to disrupt the meetings. Rather, he said they should be focusing on the issues.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; angrymob; communityorganizer; democrats; donttreadonme; liberalfascism; obamacare; readthebill; townhalls
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Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin was interrupted several times by critics in the audience. He drew outrage Saturday when he told the crowd there is a "nationally coordinated effort" to disrupt the town halls.

"How dare you claim that I'm part of a conspiracy," one man yelled, claiming he sent himself to the meeting.

Amateur video captures two men in an altercation as a crowd shouts "You work for us!" and "Hear our voice!" at the entrance to a health care town hall meeting in Ybor City, Fla.

1 posted on 08/09/2009 11:16:55 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: TaxPayer2000

Sounds like Ahmadinejad complaining about the election protests.


2 posted on 08/09/2009 11:20:03 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: TaxPayer2000

I believe some of it may be but for the Democrats to claim it all is they do at their peril


3 posted on 08/09/2009 11:20:12 AM PDT by lakertaker (Democratic Party Economic plan: Declare all those who hate higher taxes as unpatriotic)
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To: TaxPayer2000
The media/libs are all a twitter about the protest, are they real or AstroTurf and no one is talking about what is actually in the bill.
4 posted on 08/09/2009 11:20:53 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Losing the argument, change the subject.

Who is going to be able to pay all this debt?

and — How are we going to insure 47 million more patients, including illegals, with no additional doctors, and save money. Why not just buy them insurance rather than destroy our healthcare system in the USA ...


5 posted on 08/09/2009 11:21:04 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid)
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In the end, these asshole politicians and those spouting claims of ‘organized’, ‘orchestrated’ and ‘astroturfed’ on the part of the opposition to Zer0’s death plan will come to know. They will know by the numbers and the power of the votes represented by such.


6 posted on 08/09/2009 11:21:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Tarpon

We just Chapter 11 and offer China Taiwan....simple....


7 posted on 08/09/2009 11:21:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I’ve got some bad news for the buffoons in the House and Senate. No one told ME to be pissed off about the country taking the road towards communism. I got that way by myself. However, I’ve always hated the slavery of socialism and communism. I’m an “old school” freedom guy.


8 posted on 08/09/2009 11:22:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Proud member of "The Angry Mob" Est. April 19, 1775)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Newsflash: The anger is real.

The “counterprotesters” are contrived


9 posted on 08/09/2009 11:22:59 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: TaxPayer2000
More Alinksky type projection. This is a hallmark of this regime. The focus of whether something is real or contrived should be the entire facade of the Fraud-in-Chief. HE is the contrived puppet of powerful people who may be considered to be conspirators, in every sense of the word.
10 posted on 08/09/2009 11:23:07 AM PDT by Canedawg (Thoughts cannot be censored.)
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Guess they will find out come voting day.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 11:23:51 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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The big-time community organizers are critizing community organization?

Got it.

12 posted on 08/09/2009 11:25:09 AM PDT by what's up
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Maybe people will start learning to research those they are planning to vote for.......BEFORE.........they vote.


13 posted on 08/09/2009 11:25:19 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (If Only To Be Left To Live My Own Life)
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To: TaxPayer2000

First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
— Mahatma Gandhi


14 posted on 08/09/2009 11:31:33 AM PDT by Lorianne
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Real or Contrived? Lawmakers Argue Over Nature of Health Care Protests

The true answer is that this is a genuine case of productive Citizens saying “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to “take it” any more”.

and as the last poets claimed.....the revolution will not be televised.....


15 posted on 08/09/2009 11:32:05 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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I know this is serious, but I cant help but laugh at these critters. Congressional hearings are often carefully orchestrated theatre, yet RATS have the audacity to accuse ordinary citizens of conspiracy for exercising their First Amendment rights to assemble, express opinions, and demand accountability of their elected representatives.


16 posted on 08/09/2009 11:34:25 AM PDT by freespirited (The Surgeon General has determined that Harry and Louise are dangerous to your health.)
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Democrat are “projecting” their tactics on everyone attending the Townhall Meetings, because that’s what they do and that’s what they want to believe. IMO, they truly want to believe that these are Republican organized protests because, to accept that these are spontaneous protests by the owners of this government, would force them to accept the fact that they did NOT get a “mandate” on November 4th and the people DO NOT WANT their marxist agenda!!

Politicians are, in general, pretty arrogant and elitist. For far too many decades, they have never heard from the owners of the government the way that they are hearing from us now nand it is rattling them. However, after they return to their relative peace and quiet in Washington, they will resort to business as usual and all of these townhall meetings will be forgotten.

IMO, FWIW, we will have to show them that we are serious in a way they can’t ignore. I believe that the next phase will be spontaneous acts of civil disobediance and, when they ignore that, we will have to take even stronger measures. They aren’t listening.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 11:40:44 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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The big-time community organizers are critizing community organization?

Well put!

18 posted on 08/09/2009 11:43:38 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Lawmakers battled Sunday over whether demonstrations against health care reform legislation at town hall meetings across the country are real or contrived.

I wonder if these fools look out of their windows in DC and saw a couple of million people with pitch forks, If they would ask the same stupid question.

19 posted on 08/09/2009 11:44:16 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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They do it for a living and cannot imagine people choosing to do so on their own time, with their own opinion. They're projecting their own sins onto those with legitimate grievances. ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
20 posted on 08/09/2009 11:47:07 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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