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WHERE BAM BREAKS WITH JEWISH DEMS
NY Post ^ | August 7, 2009 | Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

Posted on 08/07/2009 3:02:04 AM PDT by Scanian

JEWISH Democrats strongly agree with the Israeli position and dis agree with President Obama's on issues such as a Palestinian state, settlement construction and trading land for peace. Does the president realize he's at risk of a break with an important part of his base?

A phone survey (sponsored by the Traditional Values Coalition and conducted by Global Marketing Research Services on July 22-24) of 500 American Jews who self-identified as Democrats exposes broad disagreement with Obama's Middle East policies.

Asked to choose between the Obama view that "if Israel could settle its dispute with the Palestinian refugees and give them a nation of their own, that the Arabs would live in peace with Israel" and the Israeli government view that "the Arabs will never live in peace with Israel and that giving them a nation of their own will just make them stronger," Jewish Democrats sided with the Israeli view by 52 percent to 20 percent.

On the contentious issue of construction in existing West Bank settlements, Democratic Jews also sided with Israel more than with Obama. The survey asked for agreement with Obama when he "says that it is very important that Israel not expand its settlements on the West Bank so as not to alienate the Palestinians," or with Israel that "it should be allowed to build new homes in existing settlements but not to start new ones" -- and got 52-37 backing for the Israeli view.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhomiddleeast; jewishvote; palestinians
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1 posted on 08/07/2009 3:02:04 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

A day late and a dollar short....but let’s hope they remember this in 2010 and 2012.


2 posted on 08/07/2009 3:04:12 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
but let’s hope they remember this in 2010 and 2012.

They won't.

3 posted on 08/07/2009 3:07:59 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I wouldn’t bet against you. :(


4 posted on 08/07/2009 3:13:28 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Scanian

Well, 0bama is watching Jews per house in the West Bank settlements.

“Klein: Obama’s ’spies’ monitoring Jews house-to-house. ‘They try to mingle with us to get more information on what we’re doing’”
August 6, 2009 by Procrustes

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/klein-obamas-spies-monitoring-jews-house-to-house-they-try-to-mingle-with-us-to-get-more-information-on-what-were-doing/


5 posted on 08/07/2009 3:20:01 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: Scanian

If they didn’t “break” in 2008, they will never break. Anti-religious, anti-Christian heritage overcomes their brains.


6 posted on 08/07/2009 3:25:31 AM PDT by qwertypie
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Oh YES we will


7 posted on 08/07/2009 3:36:21 AM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

The GOP, if it were smart, would take it upon itself to remind them. But I fear that few, short of Sarah Palin herself, will deal more than powder puff punches.


8 posted on 08/07/2009 4:07:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Dov in Houston

We shall see, I hope you’re right. Maybe in Houston what about NYC!


9 posted on 08/07/2009 4:18:44 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( MARSOC DAD)
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To: Scanian

With all due respect, I believe that Obama could bomb Tel Aviv and it wouldn’t cost him a single Jewish vote. Somehow American Jews seem to be able to discount the obvious and long standing anti-Israel policies of the Democrats while completely ignoring the generally pro-Israel Republican positions when they go to the polls. ‘Tis a mystery that you have to be Jewish to really understand. I certainly can’t explain it.


10 posted on 08/07/2009 4:18:57 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

All to often they associate Republicans with the anti-semitism and country club-type exclusion and blue bloodism of another age.

That is why we have the phrase,”Live like Episcopalians, vote like Puerto Ricans.”


11 posted on 08/07/2009 4:25:47 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: InterceptPoint
With all due respect, I believe that Obama could bomb Tel Aviv and it wouldn’t cost him a single Jewish vote. Somehow American Jews seem to be able to discount the obvious and long standing anti-Israel policies of the Democrats while completely ignoring the generally pro-Israel Republican positions when they go to the polls. ‘Tis a mystery that you have to be Jewish to really understand. I certainly can’t explain it.

Hence the epithet: "Oven Jews".

12 posted on 08/07/2009 4:56:50 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Dov in Houston

I’d love it if you were right.


13 posted on 08/07/2009 5:12:27 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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14 posted on 08/07/2009 5:36:18 AM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: qwertypie
Anti-religious, anti-Christian heritage overcomes their brains.

Yep they absolutely hated Palin because of that
15 posted on 08/07/2009 5:38:50 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Scanian

What did they expect? BO sat in the pews of the Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years listening to rants against the J O O Z E. He couldn’t have slept through all of them. Maybe some actually took root.


16 posted on 08/07/2009 6:43:14 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: uncbob
I know many plain ole General Baptist God fearing ,hard working,Israel supporting citizens that vote only democrat.

How can anyone being a Christian vote for a party that thinks abortion is a woman's right? Bill Clinton having an intern under his desk performing oral sex was "everybody does it" and "oral sex is not sex".If their General Baptist minister preached this from their pulpit on a Sunday morning they would fire him on the spot,yet they vote for a man to lead this country that does, believes and supports these sinful things.

If I smoke a cigarette, have one alcoholic drink they would think that an unforgivable sin.

It is not just Jews that are foolish for voting democrat, it is Christians as well. Not all Christians voted obama,but my guess is all that are democrats did as they have been doing as long as I have known them and will continue to do so.

Whatever their reason for electing this obamanation as president,it was stupid, obama isn't just an enemy of Israel, he is an enemy of this country too. It's tiresome to read on every Israel thread the bashing of Jews for their obama vote and forget many who hated McCain either sat on their hands,voted for a third party and claimed themselves too conservative to vote against one they knew would harm our country.

17 posted on 08/07/2009 7:01:55 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: BARLF
It is not just Jews that are foolish for voting democrat, it is Christians as well.

That is true but nowhere near 80%

And I get tired of the JEWS being told that Obama is bad for Israel etc etc as if that is all that should matter to them
18 posted on 08/07/2009 7:14:16 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob
I have no idea what percentage of Christians voted obama,but the Christians I know that are Democrats did vote for him simply because they would never vote any other way.

And I get tired of the JEWS being told that Obama is bad for Israel etc etc as if that is all that should matter to them

I agree........America First

19 posted on 08/07/2009 7:28:57 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: Scanian

Nowadays, most Episcopalians vote like Puerto Ricans.


20 posted on 08/07/2009 7:47:53 AM PDT by hout8475
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