Posted on 08/06/2009 4:32:02 PM PDT by steve-b
On Saturday, Orly Taitz filed in federal court the forged Kenyan birth certificate for President Obama that she'd discovered. It lasted in the file for less than a week -- on Thursday, a judge ordered the motion that Taitz had submitted stricken from the court record....
In the order, which can be downloaded in PDF form here, the judge says the motion was improperly filed "for the following reasons: Lacks proper notice; improper form and format; Counsel failed to identify her Cal. State Bar No.; description of motion conflicts or differs from that which counsel entered on Court's e-docket."
Taitz could file another motion, accompanied again by the forged birth certificate -- but she'll have to overcome the mistakes she made with this filing, and that might prove difficult. The electronic court record for the case, in which she's representing Alan Keyes, among others, is filled with similar procedural errors on her part.
Not that it would matter anyway -- the document is a proven fake, and the Australian birth certificate on which it was apparently based has already been discovered. Plus, on Thursday an anonymous person came forward claiming to be the source of the forgery, and with evidence to suggest that it was all a hoax, one designed to further discredit the Birthers....
(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...
The Judge did not strike the BC, he threw out the entire filing, on procedural grounds. Just like every other case seeking to examine Obama's eligibility, which were thrown out on procedural and "Standing" grounds, mostly the latter.
Have you seen any from that particular area that *don't* look like it? WND showed several from other areas of Kenya, and none of them looked like each other.
What's needed is the same sort of "short form", (which isn't as incomplete as Hawaii's modern version, from '64, before December, and from that same region, preferably one reporting a birth in the same hospital.
You must have missed the word "preliminary" before"authenticated". Right?
Any update on the Judge Carter (Maj. Stefan Cook) case?
Maybe Orly should let hoosiermamma’s dad have a look at her filings.
Just thoughts (Revised from yesterday)....
BO cannot be certain that he has scrubbed EVERY document: every copy of his BC etc etc etc. (AND there is No doubt that he has tried. He’s hiding something)
Who’s to say that the FBI/CIA isn’t involved in this?
B. The Canadian Press wrote an article about how information was being surpressed way back to before the election because talking heads had been threatened if they mentioned the BC. They said they had documentation. They promised more information would soon be released. (Looked like bait to me...Come and get it the guys in Red have the place covered)
C. Neither A or B could have been accomplished by some kid in his parents basement (Forgery yes but coordinating all those media outlets, NO. Particularly because they were each different: not from talking points)
D. Bo would have that power. He would have no reason of knowing if a document given to Orley was authentic or not, unless he faked it himself.
D1: He’d be searching just like us, if he thought it was authentic.
D2: He’d try to destroy it and Orly if he thought it was real.
D3: IF he faked it himself, he’d wait until Orly was actually in court to expose her.....Let the authenticators expose her.
(What happened?...You chose)
E. If he didn’t know it was authentic and HE didn’t set it up; than the only others with the power would be the CIA, FBI etc. They could be setting up a “sting” operation with the Canadian news as bait or Orley’s BC as bait or both...Goal is more than exposing then BO’s BC, Something bigger...much bigger.
OR:
F. Foreign powers are involved.
So then a criminal creates a forgery and tries to pass it off as the real thing, and that is supposed to discredit his targeted victim???? Get Real
All this indicates is the propensity for the Obamaites for fraud and forgery. They have a forgeries posted on the web and a fraud in the White House perpetrating fraud throughout government.
Carter's hearing the Keyes case. After giving Taitz a second chance to serve the defendant with the papers without screwing it up, they are now waiting for the government's response. The 60 day clock started running on July 13th or 14th.
The Stefan Cook case is dead. The government revoked the orders, he lost his clearance, and he got fired. Now I think he's filed a wrongful termination case.
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I think Keyes doesn't have a justicable case or controversy. Remember, what happened is that he threw out service on private citizen Barry before he was installed as President; let her refile against the sitting President. But, now, what's your claim?
The Cook case itself is over. But the fundamental proposition advanced there is alive and well.
The military, even Private Scruffy at the bottom, operates on orders given on the authority of the Commander in Chief--this Chief has no pants. He can't give orders.
Further, we have a bunch of treaties and other operative legal constraints which are based on people acting on Command authority. And although I am not a military lawyer, I believe international law requires troops to actively refuse to act on illegal orders.
I suppose "illegal" can be two classes of illegal--the order to do something to someone that is illegal; versus an order (illegal in and of itself because the person giving it has no authority) to do an act otherwise legal.
But in a combat field setting, under circumstances where there is no declaration of War by Congress, it would seem to me that combat troops would have a real problem.
I don't think the military can live with this state of affairs.
Perhaps you read something I didn't. My reading was they through the case out for reasons unrelated to whether the document was genuine or not.
So, Paul —
1) In your opinion, if the courts won’t get involved, what CAN be done?
and
2) Welcome to FR. (Step carefully, because it’s not always friendly territory to noobs, especially of the DU variety.)
So it's not dead after all. Now he has a much stronger case, however one which is less likely to allow "discovery" to produce whatever documentation the state of Hawaii might have on BO's birth.
Hardly. His case is with his former employer, not Obama.
I think that the government will no doubt move to dismiss due to lack of standing. And I think the judge will agree.
Further, we have a bunch of treaties and other operative legal constraints which are based on people acting on Command authority. And although I am not a military lawyer, I believe international law requires troops to actively refuse to act on illegal orders.
The Pentagon takes a dim view of soldiers who take it upon themselves to decide what orders are legal and what are not. Just ask Michael New.
I don't think the military can live with this state of affairs.
They won't have to.
“Why are his birth certificates missing out of so many official files in Hawaii?”
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Such as?
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“Why will no hospital in Hawaii trumpet that the President was born in their facility?”
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You mean like Kapiolani, which put the Obama birth letter into its magazine? One of the most idiotic birther claims is that the letter is somehow a forgery. Kapiolani must somehow have forged the letter, since you can’t forge a letter from yourself, which would leave out Obama.
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“Why have Hawaiian officials refused to authenticate Obama’s COLBs online?”
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Birthers go to ridiculous extremes in parsing words in order to deny the obvious: that Hawaii officials stand by the COLB.
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“Why was the Coast Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, forced to remove the plaque declaring their facility the birthplace of Barack Hussein Obama II?”
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I’m sure you must have some documentation of this. Maybe a photo of the official unveiling? A news story of armed troops removing the plaque? Something other than internet rumor?
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“Why hasn’t anyone come forward - doctor, nurse, orderly, relative - to claim they witnessed the President’s birth in Hawaii?”
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They have. Barbara Nelson, for example. Thin, but it’s armor plate, compared to birther claims.
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“Why are the only witnesses to Barack Obama’s birth in Kenya - such as his stepgrandmother, Sarah Obama?”
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Please provide something other than a misleadingly edited clip of a phone call to substantiate your claim. The useless “affidavit” of the pseudonymous “Bishop Shuhubia”, or whatever his name really is, won’t do.
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Why is Barack Obama, who promised transparency, hiding ALL documents that could prove where he was born?
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My guess is that he’s like a poker player in the catbird seat: holding a straight flush and watching a bunch of store clerks furiously raising the stakes.
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My personal opinion is that while Douggie Feith may be the “stupidest mother-f***er on the face of the planet”, Obama is surely the luckiest. The GOP attached itself to George W. Bush and self-destructed, Hillary self-destructed attaching herself to the Iraq War, and only Obama was there to grab the gold.
In the meantime, prospective opposition is distracted by birther nonsense. But if you really want to pursue birtherism, I’ve made suggestions here (yes, really!):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2309830/posts?page=703#703
So FR owes Dan Rather an apology?
What can be done to replace the president? We've had a pretty decent plan for the last 222 years ...
The fact that it was thrown out had nothing to do with any documents, it was procedural. I would think you’ve read enough to have known that?
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Right. I was just saying it was thrown out. If you read my other comment - has anyone seen other birth documents like this in Kenya - you would understand that I’m still curious about the Taitz document.
Not only does Orly need staff, it would have been nice if she had an actual track record.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2310041/posts?page=211#211
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