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Sorry, Orly -- Judge Throws Out Fake Kenyan Birth Certificate
Salon ^ | 8/6/09

Posted on 08/06/2009 4:32:02 PM PDT by steve-b

On Saturday, Orly Taitz filed in federal court the forged Kenyan birth certificate for President Obama that she'd discovered. It lasted in the file for less than a week -- on Thursday, a judge ordered the motion that Taitz had submitted stricken from the court record....

In the order, which can be downloaded in PDF form here, the judge says the motion was improperly filed "for the following reasons: Lacks proper notice; improper form and format; Counsel failed to identify her Cal. State Bar No.; description of motion conflicts or differs from that which counsel entered on Court's e-docket."

Taitz could file another motion, accompanied again by the forged birth certificate -- but she'll have to overcome the mistakes she made with this filing, and that might prove difficult. The electronic court record for the case, in which she's representing Alan Keyes, among others, is filled with similar procedural errors on her part.

Not that it would matter anyway -- the document is a proven fake, and the Australian birth certificate on which it was apparently based has already been discovered. Plus, on Thursday an anonymous person came forward claiming to be the source of the forgery, and with evidence to suggest that it was all a hoax, one designed to further discredit the Birthers....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizenship; eligibility; expunged; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; kenyanbirthcert; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; orly; orlytaitz; taitz; usurper
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To: SatinDoll

“LOL. You can’t stand it, can you: the fact you helped elect a liar and con man. The blood of innocent people are on your, and many other’s, hands.”

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I didn’t do anything to help elect Obama. I wrote in Ron Paul as he was a listed write-in candidate in my state.

I’m an implacable critic of Obama’s policies. Re-read my post and you’ll see that it only deals with birther nonsense. It’s important for truth to take precedence over political expedience.


201 posted on 08/07/2009 2:15:37 PM PDT by Redwood Bob
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To: justiceseeker93

Talk about “vile contempt” for Holocaust survivors (and all seniors), just look in the mirror.
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Strong. Thanks!


202 posted on 08/07/2009 2:15:49 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Redwood Bob

It’s important for truth to take precedence over political expedience.
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I agree with this and I’m as strident anti-zero as they come. I think WND has had some mis-steps, and they still have discrepancies that they didn’t explain related to the recent Taitz BC document and aftermath.

I have an affinity for WND, and I’m sure they’re under much pressure, however that’s no reason to post unsubstantiated hearsay either. The truth has its own weight and WND has lost some credibility along the way here. And I’m not saying what they’ve tried to do is or has been easy. I do give them huge kudos for trying. Let’s not forget who the LYING LIARS are that we’re dealing with here.


203 posted on 08/07/2009 2:24:09 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: ctdonath2

**it is not a proven fake

—What part of this (and accompanying) photos hasn’t convinced you?
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If the Certified Copy of Registration of Birth were real, someone could have punk’d it and say the original was punk’d. That being a possibility, it would remain for us to examine the orginal and I’ve not seen validation that the orginal is ‘real’ and I’m not sure what to make of the Bomford document, although it could be part of the punk.

Has anyone else seen any other Certified Copies - like this one, other than the Bomford doc, and any from Kenya - or other British protectorates there?

All in all, anyone looking for legitimacy, has pretty slim pickin’s at the moment.

And that includes BO’s legitimacy claims..


204 posted on 08/07/2009 2:29:23 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Redwood Bob

If it’s ‘birther’ nonsense:

Why are his birth certificates missing out of so many official files in Hawaii?

Why will no hospital in Hawaii trumpet that the President was born in their facility?

Why have Hawaiian officials refused to authenticate Obama’s COLBs online?

Why was the Coast Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, forced to remove the plaque declaring their facility the birthplace of Barack Hussein Obama II?

Why hasn’t anyone come forward - doctor, nurse, orderly, relative - to claim they witnessed the President’s birth in Hawaii?

Why are the only witnesses to Barack Obama’s birth in Kenya - such as his stepgrandmother, Sarah Obama?

Why is Barack Obama, who promised transparency, hiding ALL documents that could prove where he was born?

Come on, Bob! You can’t be that dense.


205 posted on 08/07/2009 2:30:57 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SeattleBruce

Orly had the document preliminarily authenticated BEFORE posting it online. She has also said it is not the only certified copy available.

DU posted an announcement early Sunday morning asking that all Democrat activists fire up photoshop and flood the web with forgeries of that certified copy so as to discredit Taitz. They knew that enough people, freepers included, would drink that koolaid. We are seeing that now, on this thread and others.

Get smart, people.


206 posted on 08/07/2009 2:38:36 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: patriot08

Liberals: “Oooh, everything he does is magic! Look at all his wonder and splendor!”

Little boy: “But he has no clothes on!”

Liberals: “Pay no attention to that stupid child!”


207 posted on 08/07/2009 2:40:07 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SeattleBruce

I agree. I just think some people do not have the will to fight obama. It’s easier to roll over. The thought of being called racist or crazy is too much. In that respect Obama has done well to divide everyone. When I hear our voices are about hating a black man it makes me nauseous. I think of the african americans that hurts. The children who hear that. All of these mobs hate african americans? That is obama’s message. Obama has two young girls who will one day see the world the same way as their parents.But you know the ends justify the means in obama’s world.

When people say the GOP is so unorganized they can’t get anything achieved, you look at the conservatives falling out right now. They are making choices on what to fight on or not. The powerful media are hitting their talking points given to them daily and making anyone who speaks out against obama a loon. To keep any of our rights is going to be a struggle under Obama.

Dictators in history started the same way as we see happening right now. I fully expect some people were bowing and kissing obama’s house sized picture in front of the white house.


208 posted on 08/07/2009 2:42:16 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: SatinDoll

flood the web with forgeries of that certified copy so as to discredit Taitz.
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Well, like it or not, it was stricken by the judge. Also, have you, or anyone, seen other Certified Copies of Registration of Birth, from Kenya or E. African British protectorates that look like Taitz doc?


209 posted on 08/07/2009 3:11:17 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: OafOfOffice

In that respect Obama has done well to divide everyone.
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So true. But don’t be discouraged! Soldier on! There are so many that are organizing at the grass roots to take this country back. I’m seeing it even in Blue State Blues Washington...


210 posted on 08/07/2009 3:15:47 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SatinDoll
Sorry, but if she claims to have "authenticated" the document prior to posting it online, then she lied in her motion filed with the court. In Keyes v Obama (Document 34) titled: MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate Orly Taitz made the following representation to the court: "The undersigned counsel for Plaintiffs has acquired possession of a color copy of one certain document (attached as Exhibit A to this motion), regarding which there are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document." So by taking her at her word and with her sworn statement to the Court, it was impossible to authenticate the document except by acquiring the "original." I don't see how she, or anyone else, for that matter could claim that she "authenticated" the document without creating a huge contradiction when compared to her statement to the court that she had NOT been able to authenticate the document. Here's a link to the motion. (I also note that she made absolutely NO representations that she was in possession of any other copies of the document, much less any "certified" copies. Let's not forget here, she didn't submit a "copy" of the document in the first place, she submitted a photograph of a document purporting to be an original or certified copy of the original certification of birth. Those are two entirely different things. I'm sorry, but I can't help but think I lot of people are being taken in and hoodwinked by this woman. When she doesn't even know enough to put her Bar # on a court document, that should expose her as someone who doesn't have the first clue about litigation or complying with standing court procedures. I've looked her up and I can find no record of her ever representing a single client (other than herself and her husband) in regard to any litigation in Orange County, CA. (She's been sued several times for malpractice related to her dental practice.) I hope I'm wrong, but I think people are possibly being conned and their contributions to the cause are being wasted on Orly Taitz.
211 posted on 08/07/2009 3:27:20 PM PDT by PaultheMan
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To: SeattleBruce

You’re fixated on the paper. Stop looking at the paper. To have punk’d it as you describe, they would have had to duplicate the blanket and several other parts of the photo which would have taken far more effort than warranted for “punking”.


212 posted on 08/07/2009 3:39:56 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Your opinion is doubleplusungoodthinkful. You have been reported to flag@whitehouse.gov.)
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To: ctdonath2

they would have had to duplicate the blanket
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Oh, the plaid blanket would be hard to replicate (?)...in any case, the judge threw it out..


213 posted on 08/07/2009 5:02:39 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: ctdonath2
Well anyone can print out the scan we saw, fold it incorrectly and claim to be the author and claim it's all a hoax. An obvious dem dirty tricks deal IMO.

Conversely someone could have forged the original scan we saw (although there are at least names on the document that could be traced). I have no personal opinion one way or the other regarding the authenticity other than to state it has NOT been disproven to my satisfaction. And I'd prefer experts analyze the originals rather than Salon.

I also have no fixed opinion regarding any of the birther stuff other than it all deserves a thorough and impartial investigation and let the chips fall where they may. In the meantime Obama is sure acting like he has a lot to hide.

Cheers

214 posted on 08/07/2009 5:04:53 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ctdonath2

they would have had to duplicate the blanket
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Oh, the plaid blanket would be hard to replicate (?)...in any case, the judge threw it out..


215 posted on 08/07/2009 5:05:34 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: plain talk

And I’d prefer experts analyze the originals rather than Salon.
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And this court, which seemed more fair than others on these cases, threw it out. Has anyone seen other documents like this from Kenya?


216 posted on 08/07/2009 5:07:29 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: little jeremiah
Yeah, it says that they are eunuchs and scared rabbits.

Exactly!

217 posted on 08/07/2009 6:36:30 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Or, they could be paid off, or blackmailed.

That’s about it.

;-)


218 posted on 08/07/2009 9:26:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: SeattleBruce

The fact that it was thrown out had nothing to do with any documents, it was procedural. I would think you’ve read enough to have known that?

Apparently Orly needs some staff.


219 posted on 08/07/2009 9:27:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Frantzie
Field strip an AK? Anyone know how many pieces? Probably not that many but still very good blind folded.

That's right not many pieces.(That one is a semi-auto, she worked with the real "Spray and pray" version)

Same is true of an M-16, and we, the US military that is, first came up with the little "confidence builder"/trick of doing it blindfolded, Well before Eugene Stoner or M. Kalashnikov, ever thought of developing weapons.

220 posted on 08/08/2009 12:02:47 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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