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To: NavyCanDo

There is nothing wrong with the naked human body. There is a difference between nudity and lewdness. Americans are so freakin up tight.

The absolute hypocrisy related to sex is best exemplified by Fox and especially the articles on Fox News. Not to mention the very strong defence of porn here at FR.

This is definitely one thing that always gives conservatives a bad name. So what if people are naked. with 1/3 of Americans overweight, the horror is not the genitals, but the fact that they probably could not be seen due to the immense amounts of fat covering them.


24 posted on 08/04/2009 12:50:49 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Using profanity gives people who don't want information from you an excuse not to listen.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Yes, there is most definitely a difference between nudity and lewdness, but in most if not all cultures there are lines placed on what constitutes acceptable circumstances for human nudity. I’ve never been to Germany, but I’m assuming it’s frowned upon to come to work at the office or hospital etc. nude.

Where the line is placed to define acceptability obviously varies from culture to culture, and maybe we are too uptight in some ways here in the US. On the other hand, we have lots of things in our culture that I consider lewd, including the vile lyrics of what passes for music in the hip hop genre.

Having said that, I absolute agree with what you wrote about the issue of being overweight (although the numbers are higher - closer to 50% prevalence of obesity in the US based on body mass index). That’s the thing about nudity. People often look much better with their clothes on.


26 posted on 08/04/2009 1:14:15 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

There is plenty wrong with the naked American human body, if your contention about flab is righ. Anyway riding around naked on a bike must be incredibly unhygenic.

What strong defence of porn exists on FR? I’ve never seen any of that.


38 posted on 08/04/2009 2:32:38 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
There is nothing wrong with the naked human body.

But there might be something wrong with the naked human body in public. I'm sure there are certain tribal cultures who would find you Germans prudish, since it's doubtful that you believe in unlimited public nudity. Does it embarrass you that they are more enlightened than you?

The absolute hypocrisy related to sex is best exemplified by Fox and especially the articles on Fox News.

Really? Do the FOX news anchors read the news while sitting naked on a bicycle?

Not to mention the very strong defence of porn here at FR.

1) I don't think there's a strong defense of porn here at FR.

2) The people who would strongly defend porn are probably not the same people who would complain about nude bike riders, thus no hypcrisy on their part.

3) The porn issue is about what an individual chooses to look at in private; the nude bikers are about what an individual may force others to see in public. Different issues, different principles involved.

This is definitely one thing that always gives conservatives a bad name.

Really? You think conservatives could improve their standing with the general public if they advocated more nude bike riding? Maybe in Seattle (or Germany, or Bujumbura) or some of the other progressive enclaves, but not in 99% of America.

I think what you really mean is that Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit has become upset with FR and the United States and now posts mainly to vent his frustrations. Isn't the issue really that you're on the wrong forum?

45 posted on 08/04/2009 4:02:57 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
There is nothing wrong with the naked human body.

They only go naked because they are attention wh*res, who know that their nudity will shock and offend a considerable segment of society (those of faith and those with different morals). They rub their nudity in the face of this segment as a direct insult (no different than shouting the "N" word in a black church). They know that they can not win their argument intelligently, so they result to cheap pallor tricks and insults.

52 posted on 08/04/2009 4:13:11 AM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Americans are the most liberal people in the world. No more uptight than anyone else and far more tolerant than 90% of the world.

Any islamic country in the world would have executed the naked cyclists.

Red China or North Korea or North Vietnam would have made short work of the naked cyclists. Most African countries would not have been tolerant. I imagine they would be in jail without a trial for a long time in South American countries.

The problem in this instance is their exposing themselves to children. That is at the least bordering upon sexual pedophilia and is sexual child abuse.


53 posted on 08/04/2009 4:13:11 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen (Death to NAMBLA!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
So what if people are naked. with 1/3 of Americans overweight,

Actually I believe the latest numbers show that 6% were morbidly obeses, 34% of Americans were obese and 32.7% were overweight

That means that 72.7% of Americans were overweight or obese or worse!!
61 posted on 08/04/2009 4:47:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
“There is nothing wrong with the naked human body. There is a difference between nudity and lewdness. Americans are so freakin up tight.”

Having had family members who back in the 60s, and 70s were members of the American Sunbathing Association (nudist),I would agree with you. They did what they did behind a fence, and a gate you could only get through as a member or guest. Riding through town exposing yourself to everyone wanting to see you or not, crosses the lewdness line big-time in my book.

85 posted on 08/04/2009 7:11:33 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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