Posted on 07/28/2009 2:43:39 PM PDT by RuyDiaz
I just ran across this about those “backers”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/those-gazan-con.html
Yes, yes; ordinary people must not be allowed to decide for themselves. We must abide by the will of the elites.
It’s because the USA is still a very young Federation, and the last Constitutional Crisis led to the Civil War.
That’s why the Repub’s give the Dems a pass a lot of times. They are scared of another Civil War. The Dems on the other hand use that as their Ace card.
In claiming his father was a Kenyan at the time of his birth and not an American, he himself raised the issue. But thank you for your persistent ignorance.
Please, by all means, enlighten us and point to exactly where we too may be so privileged as to be allowed to examine the original, long-form, vault copy birth certificate as so many have done. We were not aware of your knowledge of such examination. Please don’t keep it a secret any longer.
Please, by all means, enlighten us and point to exactly where we too may be so privileged as to be allowed to examine the original, long-form, vault copy birth certificate as so many have done. We were not aware of your knowledge of such examination. Please don’t keep it a secret any longer.
BTW you dishonor a great name.
Do you really think that the Cid would attempt to lead such dishonest efforts to assist the man who daily exposes us more and more to Islamist evils just when we could be stopping it cold.
The nasty whine of the unappreciated town crier. "You people don't have MY secret knowledge!"
Talk about elites! LOL!
What a joke NR has become since the advent of Rich Lowry.
From Wikipedia (I know, I know--they're in on it, too!):
In 1997, Farah created the news website WorldNetDaily as a division of the Western Journalism Center. In 1999, WorldNetDaily was spun off[5] as a for-profit division of the Center. The Center and Farah own a majority of WorldNetDaily's stock.[6] In 2004, Smith became publisher of a revived website/magazine version of the Sacramento Union, but was ousted from that position in June 2005. The Center currently hides from its targets, and doesn't include either an address or telephone number on its letterhead, but is believed to be headed by conservative political operative Floyd Brown.[7]
So when you get right down to it, WorldNetDaily is everywhere you go on this story.
Yep, that's some stunning journalism going on there. Of course, no journalist wants the fame and fortune that would come from taking down a president--nah, none of them care about scandals and all that. They're ALL in the tank.
There’s nothing secret about it, oh ignorant one; it is laid out in a Supreme Court decision from 1874. Try reading the actual legal opinions and respected legal commentary and tell us what you think. In the meantime thank you again for your scornful and willful ignorance. The more of this kind of willful ignorance from such as yourself the more ordinary people realize there has been a betrayal of the trust of ordinary citizens that is historically unmatched since the days of Chet Arthur.
What’s funny is how you defenders of the country are so full of insults and anger because you haven’t been recognized for your courage, while us “ignorant ones” keep looking for, you know, actual facts.
Please tell us of a single “actual fact” that you have established. We’d all love to know about it.
Why don’t you try refuting the content of the article?
Anyone can engage in Joe Farah bashing (and I’m on record for bashing him when it is appropriate) but read the damn article and let’s see you if you can refute the data?
I’m still waiting for someone, ANYone (perhaps you?) to explain to us why, of ALL the 43 presidential predecessors to 0bama, not ONE of them ever engaged in such efforts to conceal the details of their birth, their school years, their travel to foreign countries, their passport data, etc., but here we are with 0bama spending money hand over fist to be sure that his records are kept from the public.
‘We The People’ put that SOB into Office, and that is why we have a RIGHT to demand that he prove his qualifications to OUR satisfaction, not to the satisfaction of his bloody press secretary, not to the satisfaction of Bill O’Freakin-Riley, not to the satisfaction of his sycophants and apologists on Daily KOS, DU, etc., but to OUR satisfaction, and that means we want to see the ORIGINAL vault copy of the damn birth certificate, we want to know WHO the doctor was that delivered 0bama, we want to know WHICH hospital it was, we want to know WHO was present at his birth, and we want to know WHY it’s been such a big damn deal to obtain this information!
And we want to know WHY he’s got relatives in Kenya who keep insisting they were present at his birth in THAT country!
TKU (The Kenyan Usurper) will have no rest from me until he coughs up the data that the American people deserve and I don’t care if I’m the last one standing, I will demand it and shout it until Hell freezes over or until somebody puts a bullet in my damn skull.
Does that make it clear enough for you?
What actual facts are you looking for?
Seems you’re content with your opinion and not looking to find facts that counter it.
*BINGO*
Make that Certification of Live Birth
Dang Vista operating system locked up on me, and I had to change computers to post the correction.
Interesting scenario, but there’s a problem - one doesn’t lose American citizenship that way. Indonesian laws don’t apply in the U.S. and the State Department lists how one can lose citizenship: the citizen must declare his desire to renounce citizenship to a consular officer and sign an oath of renunciation. Parents may not renounce on behalf of minors, and those under 18 may only renounce if the consular officer is convinced the minor understands the consequences and implications.
American citizens do not lose their citizenship due to foreign marriages or adoptions.
Actual facts, even Obama aknowledges? Like his father being a foreign national, a subject of Her Majesty the Queen. Later a citizen of Kenya? Even Ba rack was a subject of her Majesty, when he was born, and he's admitted as well.
On July 27, 2009 Janice Okubo told WorldNetDaily, “I am not aware of any birth certificate records that have been destroyed by the department. When the department went electronic in 2001, vital records, whether in paper form or any other form, [were] maintained. We don’t destroy records. Any records that we had in paper or any other form before 2001 are still in file within the department. We have not destroyed any vital statistics records that we have.”
I believe it. Why on earth would they destroy the original documents?
If accurate, that contradicts the editors of National Review:
The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.The COLB itself is a "secondary document," as is the computerized state record that is used to create each COLB. The primary document is the original Certificate of Live Birth, or Certificate of Delayed Birth, or another member of the rather extensive line of Hawaiian birth documents.
For the umpteenth time, here is a link to an actual long form Certificate of Live Birth. Note that it is dated less than a year after Obama's, indicating that the long form certificates were still being used at the time of Obama's birth. Note that it looks markedly different from a COLB, and that it contains much more information than a COLB. Though the NR editors try to conflate them, the two documents are not equivalent.
Sorry NR editors, but Obama probably WAS issued a primary birth document, and it probably DOES still exist, "cloaked in darkness" in a folder in a file cabinet in Hawaii.
If such a document exists, then the President of the United States can certainly get a copy of it released to the public. He might be more inclined to do so if you asked him.
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