Posted on 07/27/2009 7:03:39 PM PDT by pissant
HONOLULU -- State officials again are confirming that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a "natural-born American citizen."
Fukino made the announcement in hopes of ending any lingering rumors about Obama's citizenship. She issued a similar press release Oct. 31.
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Oh we are, Constitutional absolutists. (It is a contract, isn't it?) Well armed nutbags too.
You said — Given the number of times I’ve had to show my long form b.c. I don’t give a damn that he’s president. Release the damn thing, Mr. President!
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The chances of that happening just got infinitesimally smaller today...
The child's race is not given on Hawaii birth certificates of the early '60s.
Father's race is, mother's race is, father's name is too.
You said — Well if she’s seen it and it’s legit why not show it for everyone?
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It’s illegal to do that.
Unless he wasn't.
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Don't those Hawaii evasive, secretive, and Obama-protecting bureaurcrats get it yet?
1. This Obama birth certificate issue has gone way past the point where Hawaii bureaucrats---mainly just high-ranking and highly-paid clerks---said this or said that about Obama's birth certificate and the public believed them.
2. For instance, how dare Fukino insult our intelligence by coming out and saying that Obama was a natural born citizen. Is she a lawyer? Is she a member of the Supreme Court?
3. Look Fukino. We no longer are taking the word of some high-paid Hawaii clerk about what is on Obama's birth certificate.
4. Show us the beef. It is way past time that you showed us Obama's 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate so that we can decide for ourselves if Obama is who he says he is.
5. Fukino. in your naive way, you think that the only item that is important on Obama's 1961 birth certificate is his place of birth.
6. Sorry, Fukino, but we also want to know the names of the doctor and the hospital, because if there is no doctor name or hospital name, then you and other Hawaii officials have better explain why you have misled the public all these months by saying that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, when, in reality he may have been born somewhere else, if there is no doctor name or signature.
7. For instance, Fukino, we also want to see if the word "African" appears on Obama's long form birth certificate as it does on the Obama short form birth certificate that Obama displayed on his official site during the 2008 campaign.
8. If the word "African" for the RACE of Obama's Kenyan father is NOT on Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate while it is on Obama's short form, then you, Obama and other high-ranking Hawaii officials have a lot of explaining to do.
9. Finally, we also want to check if Obama's mother's address on the 1961 long form birth certificate is the same as the address in the 1961 newspaper birth listing, because if it is different, Obama has a lot of explaining to do before the presidential primaries in 2012.
10. So, Fukino, let me emphasize that we are tired of Hawaii officials telling us this and that about Obama's long form birth certificate.
11. Fukino, don't you get it yet? We no longer trust you and your fellow Hawaii bureaucrats to tell us the truth as you continue to protect native son Obama, the fraud and liar.
12. So show us Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate and get out of the way as we examine the birth certificate for ourselves.
13. WARNING: If Hawaii officials, like you, and Obama continue to stonewall the public when it comes to examining Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate, then there is no way in Hell that I am going to vote for Obama in 2012.
Wrong. The US parent must have lived in the US for at least 5 years, 2 of them after their 14th birthday. When The One was born it was 10 years and 5 years. Since his mother was only 18, you got that part right, she didn't qualify. HOWEVER, all that only applies to children born outside the us, and doesn't make the child natural born anyway. Make them naturalized at birth. Congress can not define "natural born citizen, they only have the power to define who can be a naturalized citizen, under what circumstances, etc. A person born in the US, unless their parents are in the service of a foreign nation, is a citizen, not necessarily a natural born one though.
You said — Time to focus on B.O. in the White House not on this stupid conspiracy.
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Now I’m curious and I’m wondering how long it will take, since this official announcement from the State of Hawaii that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, to “fizzle down” on these threads.
Sometimes people don’t like the “reality” that sets in and they resist for a while. I wonder how long....
She's medical doctor, not a judge. She can say he was born in Hawaii, although that would seem to run afoul of the law they've been touting for over a year now, but she can't say if he is natural born or not.
She might as well tell us which hospital he was born in. That's no more "private" than what state he was born in.
I give it another week of run time and then only the cranks here and a few other sites will keep this silly nonsense going. There is no there there.
He’s an American citizen unless someone proves otherwise. He’s proven all he needs to prove...he has the job.
could be, and if so, we'll get him for falsifying an official document.
ANTI-AMERICAN PROPAGANDA ALERT.
Previous poster obfuscating that one must be “a natural-born citizen” not “an American citizen” to be President.
You said — He’s an American citizen unless someone proves otherwise. He’s proven all he needs to prove...he has the job.
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Yeah, now maybe we’ll finally be on the serious business of opposing policies and providing solid conservative opposition... It will be nice to get to political matters in Congress and the Executive Branch. We need to really on that stuff, strongly, with all the effort that we can muster. We’ve got a country to run here... :-)
But, it's US CODE > TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401
Be sure to check the notes link, which indicates a change to the current law in 1986 from 10 years 5 after the 14th birthday to 5 years, 2 after the 14th birthday of the US citizen parent.
but the law does not deine "natural born citizen" nor can it.
Citizenship yes, natural born citizenship, no. Citizen at birth> See link above to Title 8 section 1401 of the US Code.
That said, one cannot be a natural born citizen without being a citizen at birth, but one probably can be a citizen at birth without being a natural born citizen.
It's also not legal for them to reveal *any* of the information on the BC, except to "authorized" parties. But that doesn't seem to have stopped her, does it?
Then why bother with a Certification. It takes no more effort to print a copy of the original, if that's on file electronically, than to print an abstract, since in either case an original physical document need not be located, retrieive, copied and returned to the file.
There are many Heidelberg platen presses in operation,,,
I know of one in a local job-shop where I worked 75-77,,,
IMHO : That fake BC was printed then copied on a
1250 Multilith or just a “shop-job” on a puter!,,,
The BORDER of that FAKE BC is what let me know it is/was a
FAKE!!!,,,Tooooo Sloppy,,,Look at the CORNERS!!!,,,
The Heidelberg is/was used to print NUMBERS on custom checks
and stock certificates/etc. for the most part,,,
This was/is just a sloppy job on green “check paper”...;0)
I wonder if his BC number is 666?
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