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Obamacare: It's Even Worse Than You Think
Weekly Standard ^ | August 3, 2009 | James C. Capretta & Yuval Levin

Posted on 07/25/2009 11:22:08 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: griswold3
No, the question is will people go like lemmings or do what they did when Rostenkowski screwed with SSI and seniors in protest by chasing him and throwing themselves on the hood of his car like it was a Mosh-Pit. I do not advocate civil disobedience, but will we see outright anger as to what a mess the medical system will become.
21 posted on 07/25/2009 11:37:12 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012>)
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To: Walrus

and if you think thats bad:

http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/07/24/the-downside-of-a-public-option-oregons-physician-assisted-suicide-promotion-and-overall-rationing-of-care/


22 posted on 07/25/2009 11:37:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: reaganaut1

How to tell you are about to be SCREWED..
When someone starts uses phrases like this: “bending the cost-curve”


23 posted on 07/25/2009 11:37:31 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: griswold3
Are we defenders of liberty or lemmings?We're lemmings, as we've shown all throughout history. Remember NFA '34? Congress is still standing.
24 posted on 07/25/2009 11:40:14 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: FocusNexus
al-Obama Kenyata's new euphemism for Socialized Medicine is "Health Insurance Reform". "Health Care Reform" is now an inoperative term. Do not be deceived.

The democrat/socialists will start saying, "We have heard from our constituents on Health Care Reform. That is dead. We have pared way back from that. We now only want to reform "Health Insurance".

It is still the same bill.

yitbos

25 posted on 07/25/2009 11:43:24 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: reaganaut1

This Democrat Crap cannot be allowed to pass.


26 posted on 07/25/2009 11:45:00 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: reaganaut1
"bending the cost-curve,"

What is this "cost curve" I keep hearing about? Does it bend up or down? Is it convex or concave? What are the variables? If cost is the x axis, what is the y axis? Does the curve go on infinitely or does it have defined endpoints? What is the "cost curve's" relationship to supply and demand? Does anyone know where I can see this curve on a graph with a legend?

Seriously, I studied this stuff in college and I don't know what the hell they're talking about. How do they expect the average citizen to understand it?

And why is it no reporter feels compelled to explain the term "cost curve"? Do they just spout the words they're handed without filtering any of it.

27 posted on 07/25/2009 11:45:26 AM PDT by PressurePoint (See you in the unemployment line, Barack)
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To: combat_boots

Tom Hanks’ character when he was firing the 1911 at the tank?


28 posted on 07/25/2009 11:46:34 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: reaganaut1
Conservatives should not grow confident or careless at the sight of public opposition to liberal health care reform. Instead, they must use the August recess to clarify the problems with Obamacare to voters, and to make the case that America must not be rushed into a terrible mistake

We've had some victories in getting the House and Senate to back down from passing this thing before Aug.

However, the enemies of the Republic are just licking their chops waiting for the next opening to shove it thru when the public tires of the debate.

This is a biggie. May the good guys win.

29 posted on 07/25/2009 11:48:32 AM PDT by what's up
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To: wastedyears

Hanks. Saying to Matt Damon, “Earn it.” Don’t remember the pistol the Hanks character was using just now. If that’s what you mean, yes.


30 posted on 07/25/2009 11:53:27 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: reaganaut1; All

As Rush keeps reminding us, but nobody is listening, this has NOTHING to do with health care. It is all about controlling the population (us).

Anybody at home?

Wake up folks.


31 posted on 07/25/2009 11:54:03 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: junta

Fortunately, the health-care disaster and breathtaking power grab which is Husseincare has been sufficiently exposed to get people concerned. This is NOT what Hussein or his MSM cheerleaders wanted. Now the story must be pushed, day after day, with details of this assault on our liberty, pounded by republicans everywhere.


32 posted on 07/25/2009 11:55:57 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: reaganaut1; All

P.S.

Arguing whether it is going to do this or that has NOTHING to do with it.

IT IS CONTROL OF OUR LIVES.

What does one not understand about this?


33 posted on 07/25/2009 11:57:42 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: PressurePoint

You forgot to add the third dimension. Maybe in terms of this ‘cost curve’ there is a 4th or 5th, too, that only a privileged few remnants of the Philadelphia Experiment can explain. ;>

Ah, the little people, the happy people. All those wonderful people out there ‘in the dark.’ Gloria Swanson sure could deliver a line. So can the democrat. Or certain bookies.

Great post.


34 posted on 07/25/2009 11:58:15 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: PressurePoint
"What is this "cost curve" I keep hearing about? "

Suppose the socialists come out and say, "It is now cost neutral. No increase in deficit, no new taxes."

Would you then be in favor of Socialized Medicine?

Cost is a diversion. The topic is Socialized Medicine.

yitbos

35 posted on 07/25/2009 12:02:07 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: combat_boots; All

“Great post.”

With all due forgiveness...no it’s not because no one is seeing what is really behind this...loss of our freedom. This has NOTHING to do with health care. It is all about controlling us.


36 posted on 07/25/2009 12:03:49 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Look at the last picture in this video of the wrecking ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80deST3naq0

I don’t understand how Democrats are not waking up to this. ..Do they really want to kill off America???...they stand to lose their seats when America finally has had enough.


37 posted on 07/25/2009 12:11:50 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: junta

Once every 5-yrs, or when you get really sick. And it will be by a ‘death council member’.


38 posted on 07/25/2009 12:11:58 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: clintonh8r
Carousel in 15 minutes.


39 posted on 07/25/2009 12:12:08 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: combat_boots
This needs to be mailed out to every taxpayer and most especially to the senior citizens. AARP, where are you?

Tell me someone, why is the AARP so silent on this obammacare? What is in it for them? Do they think they are immune to all the draconian measures in this bill?

40 posted on 07/25/2009 12:15:56 PM PDT by rawhide
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