Republicans: Put a stake through the heart of the birther movement now (the Flop Sweat intensifies)

Mlive ^ | 7/24/09 | Susan Dumass

[pissant]

n case you don't watch cable news (an excellent idea), you might have missed the explosion of stories on the birthers, those folks who are determined that Barack Obama can't be president because there's a massive commie conspiracy involving his birth certificate. Somehow very respected conservatives have decided to throw in their lot with them.

These people are nuts. If Republicans want to be a national party and not a repository for wingnut conspiracy theorists angry about everything, they will loudly denounce the birthers and move on. Say, with actual health care, climate change and economic proposals.

Here's a quick roundup of the insanity. Feel free to post more in ye olde comments (which also tends to be a repository for wingnuts):

Poor U.S. Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.), who would make a great senator.

There is an actual birther bill in Congress with something like 10 sponsors.

Liz Cheney stokes the flames.

Convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy is somehow still treated with credibility.

Let's overthrow the government because our guy lost.

Count the alleged Holocaust Museum killer as a member.

Fox News gives them credibility.

Lou Dobbs dons his best tin-foil hat.

Even Wikipedia is against them. (They're all against you).

Thank God for Jon Stewart.

[Windflier]

Although Dumass is not her real name it is her nickname, and it fits.

You're kidding. She actually writes under that name? No way.

[Art in Idaho]

The only reason the left goes into Alinsky attack mode is if they perceive a credible threat and want to destroy someone or an idea, a la Palin or the Birthers.

I say bring it on, the more press = more awareness and interest of the general public. Keep in mind no matter what develops they'll spin it for Obama and against the rest of the country. . .

[devolve]

For those who think Snopes is "the last word"

- A message not paid for by George Soros/DNC:

THIS MAY SURPRISE YOU

For the past few years www.snopes.com has positioned itself, or others have labeled it as the *tell-all, final word* on any comment, claim and e-mail.

But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team - that*s right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers.. It*s just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.

David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions - or skepticisms - is a result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issues, when in fact, they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the *true* bottom of various issues.

When I saw that Snopes had falsely claimed that Obama*s Birth Certificate had been properly validated, I realized something was wrong with either their research and/or their credibility. It seems something is seriously wrong with both.

Then a few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet, supposedly the Mikkelson*s claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort ever took place.

I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this, and I gave him Bud Gregg*s contact phone numbers. Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec*s at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet snopes.com issued a statement as the *final factual word* on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things. Not!

Then it has been learned the Mikkelson*s are very Democrat and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson*s liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock!

So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line facts: Proceed with caution. Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that*s all the Mikkelson*s do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their *not* fully looking into things

[kcvl]

http://tinyurl.com/mufbe9

Susan J. Demas writes:

If you want to read mind-numbing, inscrutable “analysis” of everything from Britney Spears’ baby drama to Barack Obama’s choice in underwear, then the blogosphere is for you.

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“The Republican Party has always relished looking backward.”

“They’ve sought to rocket the Wayback Machine to 1962 or even 1929, bizarrely longing for the glory days of Herbert Hoover and Jim Crow.”

“It started with the proposed $14 billion bridge loan for Chrysler and General Motors.”

“There’s a reason why few Republicans have attempted to rehabilitate the reputation of the stocky free-market stalwart decades later.”

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December 13, 2008
A Death Sentence for Detroit
By Susan Demas

Polls show most Americans don’t want Uncle Sam to help the Big Three and I couldn’t care less.

They’re wrong, plain and simple, but it’s not entirely their fault. The amount of misinformation floating out there on ye olde information superhighway and from TV anchors who should know better is staggering.

Unfortunately, this won’t stop the Big Three bashing because it’s too much fun. What we have is an axis of ignorance of far-out environmentalists and free-market Republicans.

Letting the Big Three die isn’t just cutting off our nose to spite our face. It would be a decapitation.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/12/a_death_sentence_for_detroit.html

[Know et al]

Why waste time and space on ridiculous pursuits. This guy is burning your house down with you in it and you complain that the Molotov cocktails that he is throwing are coming in damn French wine bottles rather than Californian.

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Great TM. Maybe the colonists could have taken the same approach. We would still be living under a monarch. We may be again if we take your advice. Thanks but no thanks.

[kcvl]

Susan J. Demas

Comb your hair, honey. Maybe then someone would take your serious. But since you resemble Chelsea Clinton on a good day I doubt it.

[Titus-Maximus]

There is limited time and space to get people’s attention and if you think the majority of that time and space should be spent in this foolish pursuit of a birth certificate then it is you that is preposterous. Get over it. He is legally president and has no requirement to produce a birth certificate so stop wasting time and effort screaming about this when the mention of it discounts you and your movement into an “Obama Derangement Syndrome”. If he passes health care we will have another actuarially unsound monstrosity on our hands like Social Security. So wasting time on this deflects the real arguments against something that is truly dangerous.

[Titus-Maximus]

There is limited time and space to get people’s attention and if you think the majority of that time and space should be spent in this foolish pursuit of a birth certificate then it is you that is preposterous. Get over it. He is legally president and has no requirement to produce a birth certificate so stop wasting time and effort screaming about this when the mention of it discounts you and your movement into an “Obama Derangement Syndrome”. If he passes health care we will have another actuarially unsound monstrosity on our hands like Social Security. So wasting time on this deflects the real arguments against something that is truly dangerous.

[kcvl]

Susan J. Demas

“I am a hopeless romantic. Give me a glass of wine, a fireplace and a little Lord Byron, and I’m a happy woman.”

[kcvl]

Susan J. Demas

“Whenever my 6-year-old throws a tantrum about some toy she absolutely needs to get this instant, I refocus her attention by reminding her of all the kids in this state, country and world who don’t even have a roof over their heads. And I usually turn on the news to demonstrate that the world is a pretty big place, praying that there’s not some insipid segment playing on Michael Jackson.”

[kcvl]

Sunday Jun 28

Susan J. Demas: The bumpy road to Republican recovery

The Republican comeback starts in Michigan. Everyone knows it’s coming next year.

The Obama backlash is inevitable, hence the canny GOP strategy to wage war against gay adoption and legal, life-saving embryonic stem cell research, instead of focusing on real problems.

Except that the president isn’t a political rube, despite fruitless attempts by right-wing commentators to paint him as such. (But hey, college dropouts/circus clowns Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck are given platforms to question the intellectual heft of a Supreme Court nominee who’s a summa cum laude Princeton graduate, so why not).

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009906260308

[jyro]

There is way too much smoke to not have a fire in this somewhere. How many documents has President Obama refused to show, his college records, his school records, any scholarship information, any papers he wrote in college.
As a matter of fact look up Executive Order 13489.
President Obama issued this order banning the release of all presidential records his first day in office.

[Red Steel]

Get over it. He is legally president and has no requirement to produce a birth certificate so stop wasting time and effort screaming about this when the mention of it discounts you and your movement into an “Obama Derangement Syndrome”.

You get over it. I'll place my efforts where I want to. You spout the 'Media Derangement Syndrome' whining it's going to be all for no avail.

[Caipirabob]

These people are nuts.

Show me a bith certificate and not a COLB.

* Crickets chirping *

You people are traitors and deserve a traitor's fate.

[firebrand]

You are right, but it's more than thst. Even the very word "birther," which we should not use or accept. It's an attempt to put us in the loony bin when we are really just looking for the answer.

No one who loves his country should want this search ended. Maybe we will be proven wrong, although we're not (all) sayng he wasn' eligible, we just want proof. I am willing to take the risk of being proven wrong.

[pissant]

She forgot to mention the large vibrator.

[Ronin]

Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me.

[PhilDragoo]

You are correct. "Birther" is a Leftist propaganda tool, as is "tea-bagger".

I would prefer that the "baby-killers" call us "constitutionalists".

Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5 requires the president to be a "natural born Citizen".

Something about loyalty in the reasoning of the supporting documents written by the founders.

If anybody is a "birther" it is ali Hussein Lord of All Czars.

By his account he was born in two hospitals. His grandmother is adamant it was a third, in Mombasa, Kenya.

Yet he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to suppress a ten-dollar document.

He doth protest too much.

[pissant]

Bump

[The_Sword_of_Groo]

She forgot to mention the large vibrator

she also forgot to mention a flannel nightgown and a few cats