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To: Osage Orange
Several years of Pew, to say nothing of voting registration/performance in Utah, rural Nevada, Idaho, and northern Arizona should convince you.

If only Catholics voted like Mormons, than the northeast and upper midwest would be GOP territory.

WTF is up with all the Mormon-bashing by the Fundies anyway? I'm an agnostic, and don't have much of a positive opinion of organized religion as it stands, btw.

7 posted on 07/20/2009 12:34:09 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
LOL!

I can tell by your chose of "words"....you an agnostic.

BTW, tell me...with your insight...just how did you come to the conclusion my post was bashing mormons?

13 posted on 07/20/2009 12:40:18 PM PDT by Osage Orange (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. - Will Rogers)
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To: Clemenza
Good observations and additional interesting notes from the wargs.com website on ObaMao:

None of Mr. Obama's ancestors lived under slavery in North America. The first of Mr. Obama's paternal ancestors to leave Kenya was Mr. Obama's own father, who left in the mid-20th century, about 100 years after slavery had been abolished in the United States.

Several of Mr. Obama's maternal ancestors owned slaves. Mr. Obama's slave-owning ancestors include George Washington Overall (number 110, above, husband of Mrs. Louisiana Duvall Overall and father-in-law of the Christopher Columbus Clark mentioned above) and Mrs. Mary Grable Duvall (number 223, above, mother of Mrs. Louisiana Duvall Overall and grandmother-in-law of Christopher Columbus Clark), both of whom are enumerated in the 1850 Federal Census as slave owners. George Washington Overall is also enumerated in the 1860 Federal Census as a slave owner. Other slave-owning ancestors of Mr. Obama include John P. Childress (or Childers, number 212, above), who was enumerated in the 1860 Federal Census as a slave owner. See the Extracts from the Federal Censuses, above, for details. See also Note 224, above.

From what I have been able to collaborate elsewhere, the research on this site is really quite good and, as far as I can see, the authors have no political axe to grind or agenda to promote.

14 posted on 07/20/2009 12:43:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Clemenza
“WTF is up with all the Mormon-bashing by the Fundies anyway? I'm an agnostic, and don't have much of a positive opinion of organized religion as it stands, btw.”

You seem to be bashing the Mormons too unless you don't consider Mormonism an organized religion. Moral relativism is flawed.

16 posted on 07/20/2009 12:49:25 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Clemenza
WTF is up with all the Mormon-bashing by the Fundies anyway?

Don't ask. I asked the same thing and went to their defense (although I am a non-Mormon lawyer) and ended up getting permanently banned from the Religion Forum: then, when I, without looking, accidentally dared to reply to a ping (which happened to be from a religous thread, got suspended from FR for over a week and threatened with permanent suspension entirely from FR if I dared post to the Religous forum again. So, ever since then I have been somewhat wary of posting to the Mormon-hating bigots here -- or getting into discussions about that great religion.

20 posted on 07/20/2009 1:00:48 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (There is not enough combined intellect in the beltway to jumpstart a moron.)
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