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Health Care Bill Will Fund State Vaccines Teams To Conduct 'Interventions' In Private Homes...
Ciber News ^ | July 16, 2009 | Terence Jeffery

Posted on 07/16/2009 1:39:20 PM PDT by kimber

(CNSNews.com) - There is a knock at the front door. Peeking through the window, a mother sees a man and a woman, both in uniform. They are agents of health-care reform.
 
“Excuse me, ma’am,” says the man. “Our records show that your eleven-year-old daughter has not been immunized for genital warts.”
 
“And your four-year-old still needs the chicken-pox vaccine,” says the woman.
 
“He will not be allowed to start kindergarten unless he gets that shot, you know,” says the man—smiling from ear to ear.
 
“So, can we please come in?” asks the woman. “We have the vaccines right here,” she says, lifting up a black medical bag. “We can give your kids the shots right now.”
 
“We are from the government,” says the man, “and we’re here to help.”
 
Is this a scene from the over-heated imagination of an addlepated conspiracy theorist? Or is it something akin to what is actually envisioned by the health-care reform bill approved this week by the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee.
 
The committee’s official summary of the bill says: “Authorizes a demonstration program to improve immunization coverage. Under this program, CDC will provide grants to states to improve immunization coverage of children, adolescents, and adults through the use of evidence-based interventions. States may use funds to implement interventions that are recommended by the Community Preventive Services Task Force, such as reminders or recalls for patients or providers, or home visits.”
 
Home visits? What exactly is the state going to do when it sends people to “implement interventions” in private homes designed “to improve immunization coverage of children”?
 
The draft of the bill posted on the committee Web site provides more details.
 
Title III of the bill is entitled, “Improving the Health of the American People.” It includes four subtitles. They are: “Subtitle A: Modernizing Disease Prevention of Public Health Systems,” “Subtitle B: Increasing Access to Clinical Preventive Services,” “Subtitle C: Creating Healthier Communities,” and “Subtitle D: Support for Prevention and Public Health Information.”
 
The program authorizing home “interventions” to promote immunizations falls under “Subtitle C: Creating Healthier Communities.”  This subtitle directs the secretary of health and human services to “establish a demonstration program to award grants to states to improve the provision of recommended immunizations for children, adolescents, and adults through the use of evidence-based, population-based interventions for high-risk populations.”
 
The bill lists eight specific ways that states may use federal grant money to carry out immunization-promoting “interventions.” Method “E” calls for “home visits” which can include “provision of immunizations.”
 
Says the draft bill: “Funds received under a  grant under this subsection shall be used to implement interventions that are recommended by the Task Force on Community Preventive Services (as established by the secretary, acting through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) or other evidence-based interventions, including—“(A) providing immunization reminders or recalls for target populations of clients, patients, and consumers; (B) educating targeted populations and health care providers concerning immunizations in combination with one or more other interventions; (C) reducing out-of-pocket costs for families for vaccines and their administration; (D) carrying out immunization-promoting strategies for participants or clients of public programs, including assessments of immunization status, referrals to health care providers, education, provision of on-site immunizations, or incentives for immunization;(E) providing for home visits that promote immunization through education, assessments of need, referrals, provision of immunizations, or other services; (F) providing reminders or recalls for immunization providers;(G) conducting assessments of, and providing feedback to, immunization providers; or (H) any combination of one or more interventions described in this paragraph.”
 
Many vaccines routinely administered to children in the United States are utterly uncontroversial. But in recent years there have been controversies about the chicken pox vaccine and the vaccine for HPV, which causes genital warts, which can cause cervical cancer.
 
On March 15, 2007, Bloomberg news summarized a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which discovered that the chicken pox vaccine does not provide permanent protection against chicken pox, leaving children who have been immunized vulnerable to getting ill with the virus later in life when it can cause a more serious bout of the disease.
 
“Merck & Co.'s chickenpox vaccine weakens as children age, possibly leaving them vulnerable to a more serious infection as adults, a U.S.-sponsored study in California found,” reported Bloomberg. “The power of the vaccine, Varivax, the only one available in the United States against chickenpox, starts to fade after five years, according to the study in today's New England Journal of Medicine. The results suggest that children should get a second dose, which advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended in June.”
 
Bloomberg quoted the study as saying, "Waning immunity is of particular public health interest because it may result in increased susceptibility later in life, when the risk of severe complications may be greater than that in childhood.”
 
In March of this year, the Washington Post reported about the controversy sparked when the Merck pharmaceutical company campaigned to have states mandate that school girls receive Gardasil, its vaccine against HPV.
 
“Merck also began an ambitious marketing campaign and lobbying push to persuade states to add the vaccine to the list of those required for children to attend school,” reported the Post. “But the company eventually abandoned the strategy in the face of an intense backlash from critics who argued that the decision should be left to parents. Although many states considered such mandates, so far only Virginia and the District have imposed one, and [a Merck official] said the company has no plans to pursue that strategy again."
 
The Post's report noted that at least some experts questioned the wisdom of promoting use of the vaccine when its long term impact is still unknown.

“Federal health officials, Merck and others say they are confident that the vaccine is safe," reported the Post. "But some experts said they are concerned that there is insufficient evidence about how long Gardasil's protection will last, whether serious side effects will emerge and whether the relatively modest benefits for boys are worth even the small risks associated with any vaccine."


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To: TheThinker

I see a clash will happen between those on the left and a mostly conservative nation.


41 posted on 07/16/2009 2:47:35 PM PDT by Biggirl (Is 2010 President Obama's 1994?)
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To: Sir Gawain

“Statists don’t understand anything except brute force. At some point, you’ll start seeing lots of dead government workers.”

This is exactly what I expected. One day two little old fascist ladies in white smocks will show up at your house and say, “Dearie, it’s time to get your government flu shot. Be a nice boy and roll up your sleeve.”

What you do? Rack a round and start blasting?


42 posted on 07/16/2009 2:48:25 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: GraceG

Yes.
You are under the false impression that the children you begat are yours. No, those children are the governments.


43 posted on 07/16/2009 2:51:05 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: DonaldC
the use of evidence-based interventions

No big deal, right? They've got "evidence"! So when they send a few ACORN losers into your home don't get mad if a few valuables disappear while your kid is getting the wrong shot.

44 posted on 07/16/2009 2:53:41 PM PDT by NotSoModerate
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To: mountainbunny

Such public health actions would be acceptable IF there wasn’t all the other stuff the governments have been doing.
How do we know that the public health workers who come in to do vaccinations are not then also going to snitch on other violations to the local building department (remodeled attic), health department (chickens in a back yard coop), DEA (marijuana plant), BATF (AK-47 over the fireplace), PETA (dog bowl with frozen water).


45 posted on 07/16/2009 2:56:27 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: Carry_Okie
There is a world of difference between FEMA and your county health department. To my knowledge, never has an enforcement agency of the Federal government had powers to enter a home and compel medical treatment.

I don't like this federal foray into private medical decisions, either.

At the same time, I don't see where you are compelled to vaccinate under this proposal. Most states allow people to exempt their own children from vaccination. I have yet to see anything that would negate state laws.

For the record, I'm not anti-vaccine. I do think most everyone should be vaccinated, but don't think anyone should be compelled to vaccinate.

46 posted on 07/16/2009 3:04:41 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney & his sons: members of the 1st Winnebago Motor Home Brigade, aka "The Fightin' RVs")
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To: wolfcreek

I can believe it. I am still trying to wrap my head around Obama naming czars.


47 posted on 07/16/2009 3:06:06 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Aroostook25
Such public health actions would be acceptable IF there wasn’t all the other stuff the governments have been doing. How do we know that the public health workers who come in to do vaccinations are not then also going to snitch on other violations to the local building department (remodeled attic), health department (chickens in a back yard coop), DEA (marijuana plant), BATF (AK-47 over the fireplace), PETA (dog bowl with frozen water).

Vaccines are not mandatory. Most (maybe all?) states have exemptions that allow you not to vaccinate. Unless state laws are revoked, this changes nothing in that regard.

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

Also, unless you know something that I don't, we aren't required to invite anyone into our homes.

48 posted on 07/16/2009 3:13:03 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney & his sons: members of the 1st Winnebago Motor Home Brigade, aka "The Fightin' RVs")
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To: kimber
“We are from the government,” says the man, “and we’re here to help.”

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' -Ronald Reagan

49 posted on 07/16/2009 3:15:27 PM PDT by kara2008 (Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem)
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To: mountainbunny
I am not "anti-vaccine," but I do want to have the freedom to choose my source of the material, the deliverer, and whether or not the specific disease represents a sufficient risk. For example, if my kid has had chicken pox, I think I'll pass on the vaccine as the risks outweigh the benefits. Similarly, I don't really think vaccinating them for HPV is necessary either. OTOH, if I could get my hands on true smallpox vaccine, I'd do it in a minute.

The choice rightly reflects the balance of risks v. benefits.

50 posted on 07/16/2009 3:15:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: kimber

Don’t you just love how the feds use money to outflank the Constitution?

“What, we can’t force people to get innoculated? Well, let’s just get the states to do it. Here’s a million dollars, Montana. Have fun.”


51 posted on 07/16/2009 3:16:03 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: mountainbunny

“...Also, unless you know something that I don’t, we aren’t required to invite anyone into our homes.”

Ummm, I think you’re thinking of the old America.

We are so over that old fashioned “negative rights” document you once called the Constitution. Get with the times comrade. It’s for your own good.


52 posted on 07/16/2009 3:17:49 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer...)
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To: Seruzawa

What is PACT? What is this you speak of?


53 posted on 07/16/2009 3:41:07 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: angelcindy

I don’t have anything against it either. My kids are vaccinated. Actually, I’m probably behind on the older two but not by much. My dad had polio as a child and one of his legs is pretty mangled. He’s lucky he can walk! I don’t want my kids at risk for something like that. I have friends that don’t vaccinate and I’m just wondering how far they’d go?


54 posted on 07/16/2009 3:43:27 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: dangerdoc

“Government enforced weight limits.”

One assumes the fat, petty healthcare bureaucrats (like ones I see every day, who don’t give a rip about common courtesy because their job is secure) will also have to adhere to this weight limit? I bet not.


55 posted on 07/16/2009 4:01:51 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: DonaldC
This reminds me of the “CONTRAILS” panic on FR a few years ago.

The gullibility factor around here surges from time to time. lol

56 posted on 07/16/2009 4:08:26 PM PDT by verity
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To: Carry_Okie

The incidence of side effects has actually gone UP since the mercury was removed.

NOT ADVOCATING MERCURY, just a fact.


57 posted on 07/16/2009 4:09:02 PM PDT by HonestConservative (http://web.me.com/pac8185/Site_2/Podcast/Podcast.html)
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To: DonnerT
“...a state mandated inoculation made my daughter a diabetic...”

What was the inoculation?

58 posted on 07/16/2009 4:10:11 PM PDT by verity
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To: HonestConservative
The incidence of side effects has actually gone UP since the mercury was removed.

One wonders how they are being stored. Then again, since the visibility of side effects has gained traction, reporting may have both improved and broadened. Dunno.

59 posted on 07/16/2009 4:11:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: kimber
There is a knock at the front door. Peeking through the window, a mother sees a man and a woman, both in uniform. They are agents of health-care reform.

And inside my house,there will be a crazy tattooed wildman with a double barreled shotgun pointed under their nose telling them to get lost.

60 posted on 07/16/2009 4:14:21 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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