Health Care Bill Will Fund State Vaccines Teams To Conduct 'Interventions' In Private Homes...

Ciber News ^ | July 16, 2009 | Terence Jeffery

[Biggirl]

I see a clash will happen between those on the left and a mostly conservative nation.

[sergeantdave]

“Statists don’t understand anything except brute force. At some point, you’ll start seeing lots of dead government workers.”

This is exactly what I expected. One day two little old fascist ladies in white smocks will show up at your house and say, “Dearie, it’s time to get your government flu shot. Be a nice boy and roll up your sleeve.”

What you do? Rack a round and start blasting?

[Aroostook25]

Yes.
You are under the false impression that the children you begat are yours. No, those children are the governments.

[NotSoModerate]

the use of evidence-based interventions

No big deal, right? They've got "evidence"! So when they send a few ACORN losers into your home don't get mad if a few valuables disappear while your kid is getting the wrong shot.

[Aroostook25]

Such public health actions would be acceptable IF there wasn’t all the other stuff the governments have been doing.
How do we know that the public health workers who come in to do vaccinations are not then also going to snitch on other violations to the local building department (remodeled attic), health department (chickens in a back yard coop), DEA (marijuana plant), BATF (AK-47 over the fireplace), PETA (dog bowl with frozen water).

[mountainbunny]

There is a world of difference between FEMA and your county health department. To my knowledge, never has an enforcement agency of the Federal government had powers to enter a home and compel medical treatment.

I don't like this federal foray into private medical decisions, either.

At the same time, I don't see where you are compelled to vaccinate under this proposal. Most states allow people to exempt their own children from vaccination. I have yet to see anything that would negate state laws.

For the record, I'm not anti-vaccine. I do think most everyone should be vaccinated, but don't think anyone should be compelled to vaccinate.

[freekitty]

I can believe it. I am still trying to wrap my head around Obama naming czars.

[mountainbunny]

Such public health actions would be acceptable IF there wasn’t all the other stuff the governments have been doing. How do we know that the public health workers who come in to do vaccinations are not then also going to snitch on other violations to the local building department (remodeled attic), health department (chickens in a back yard coop), DEA (marijuana plant), BATF (AK-47 over the fireplace), PETA (dog bowl with frozen water).

Vaccines are not mandatory. Most (maybe all?) states have exemptions that allow you not to vaccinate. Unless state laws are revoked, this changes nothing in that regard.

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

Also, unless you know something that I don't, we aren't required to invite anyone into our homes.

[kara2008]

“We are from the government,” says the man, “and we’re here to help.”

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' -Ronald Reagan

[Carry_Okie]

I am not "anti-vaccine," but I do want to have the freedom to choose my source of the material, the deliverer, and whether or not the specific disease represents a sufficient risk. For example, if my kid has had chicken pox, I think I'll pass on the vaccine as the risks outweigh the benefits. Similarly, I don't really think vaccinating them for HPV is necessary either. OTOH, if I could get my hands on true smallpox vaccine, I'd do it in a minute.

The choice rightly reflects the balance of risks v. benefits.

[Tublecane]

Don’t you just love how the feds use money to outflank the Constitution?

“What, we can’t force people to get innoculated? Well, let’s just get the states to do it. Here’s a million dollars, Montana. Have fun.”

[Drill Thrawl]

“...Also, unless you know something that I don’t, we aren’t required to invite anyone into our homes.”

Ummm, I think you’re thinking of the old America.

We are so over that old fashioned “negative rights” document you once called the Constitution. Get with the times comrade. It’s for your own good.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

What is PACT? What is this you speak of?

[samiam1972]

I don’t have anything against it either. My kids are vaccinated. Actually, I’m probably behind on the older two but not by much. My dad had polio as a child and one of his legs is pretty mangled. He’s lucky he can walk! I don’t want my kids at risk for something like that. I have friends that don’t vaccinate and I’m just wondering how far they’d go?

[1951Boomer]

“Government enforced weight limits.”

One assumes the fat, petty healthcare bureaucrats (like ones I see every day, who don’t give a rip about common courtesy because their job is secure) will also have to adhere to this weight limit? I bet not.

[verity]

This reminds me of the “CONTRAILS” panic on FR a few years ago.

The gullibility factor around here surges from time to time. lol

[HonestConservative]

The incidence of side effects has actually gone UP since the mercury was removed.

NOT ADVOCATING MERCURY, just a fact.

[verity]

“...a state mandated inoculation made my daughter a diabetic...”

What was the inoculation?

[Carry_Okie]

The incidence of side effects has actually gone UP since the mercury was removed.

One wonders how they are being stored. Then again, since the visibility of side effects has gained traction, reporting may have both improved and broadened. Dunno.

[Uncle Meat]

There is a knock at the front door. Peeking through the window, a mother sees a man and a woman, both in uniform. They are agents of health-care reform.

And inside my house,there will be a crazy tattooed wildman with a double barreled shotgun pointed under their nose telling them to get lost.