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According to Dobbs, proof to run for House, Senate and the Presidency is left up the states and every state is different. And in IL proof of citizenship is not required.
1 posted on 07/15/2009 5:25:19 PM PDT by kellynla
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Nobody requires anything except the constitution.

The parties did not review the qualifications.

The secretaries of state put them on the ballot without reviewing qualifications, even after citizens made inquires.

The electoral college dod not review qualifications.

The congress confirmedwithout review.

Until recently, the courst have refused to hear cases.

This is how the constitution is ignored, fraud is committed, and we have the mess we have.

104 posted on 07/15/2009 6:18:38 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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I think that in a pure sense Dobbs is correct. It is not the place of the FEC to determine eligibility. That is the job of the Electoral college and the senate who accept the results of the electoral college.

This whole mess is deliberate by the democRATS. Undermine the constitution, the electoral college.


108 posted on 07/15/2009 6:19:48 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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Uh! ‘Scuse me, but isn’t that a constitutional requirement?


111 posted on 07/15/2009 6:23:18 PM PDT by billhilly
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poll:

http://www.military.com/hp/poll?poll=undefined

Created: Wednesday, July 15, 2009

As far as the conduct of the “anti-Obama GI” goes . . .

. . . I’d need to see the long-form birth certificate before I followed any of Obama’s orders too.
54%
. . . he should be discharged for dereliction of duty. And the Army should be ashamed to have him wearing the uniform.
34%
. . . it’s obviously a lot of political posturing, as usual. Wake me up when something important happens.
12%


116 posted on 07/15/2009 6:25:19 PM PDT by HD1200
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Can I pick and chose which laws and Constitutional laws I get to follow?

If Obama’s crowd doesn’t want to follow the Constitutional law requiring Citizenship; then I want to skip the Constitutional law on paying taxes.

If he can pick and chose which laws he follows, then we all get to do the same.


121 posted on 07/15/2009 6:27:55 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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122 posted on 07/15/2009 6:27:59 PM PDT by Kansas58
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Oh, so NOW they want to give power to the states, in this instance.


137 posted on 07/15/2009 6:42:21 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm ought to simply run for President. They don't have to provide any proof of eligibility. Heck, why not have some illegal alien, oops, undocumented American run for President, he'd be guaranteed 20 million votes.

When it serves the purposes of the political class, laws and rules don't matter. Then they thumb their noses at us and say, "do something about it".

Here's the problem with the elitist de-construction of the law in American. It won't stop with them.

Americans have taken up arms against the government here in American on a mass basis arguably 4 times in our history: Bacon's Rebellion, the American Revolution, The Texas Revolution and the Civil War. Throw in Nate Turner and the Whiskey Rebellion, if you please.

I believe it is inevitable, that the destruction of the law, constitution, fundamental fairness in society by the leftwing elitists will lead to the use of arms by Americans against the government. It may lead to secession by Texas, Alaska and other States.

I read a post at Instapundit that members of Congress were surprised by the outraged reactions in their districts to the passage of 'Kneecap and Tax'. This proves to me, members of Congress live in Cloud-Koo-koo-Land. Their reality is so far away from the reality of the rest of America, that they are driving off the cliff and they don't even know it. It's a Roadrunner cartoon, with Wily E. Coyote floating in the air over the canyon, before he falls. That's the Congress today, that's the US Government today, that's the State of Michigan, California (fill in the blank). These "leaders" lead nothing.

147 posted on 07/15/2009 7:06:41 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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Here is another example of how the Feds mess everything up.


170 posted on 07/15/2009 8:15:54 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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obumpa


176 posted on 07/15/2009 8:35:53 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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For the founding fathers I say BS. Gee, someone was high when citing must be a ‘natural born citizen’.

“subject to the jurisdiction thereof”
“Not owing allegiance to anybody else”

The court has violated it’s constitutional charter, it’s not just about birth, but allegiance/political jurisdiction.

Cabal point:

So what was the point of McCain going through the motion in Congress? Part of the plan?

By this example, tell me how Leahy would have supported Obama or at the least get the info required to view:

EXCERPT OF SECRETARY CHERTOFF TESTIMONY FROM APRIL 2, 2008: (Resolution 511)

Chairman Leahy. We will come back to that. I would mention one other thing, if I might, Senator Specter. Let me just ask this: I believe–and we have had some question in this Committee to have a special law passed declaring that Senator McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal, that he meets the constitutional requirement to be President. I fully believe he does. I have never had any question in my mind that he meets our constitutional requirement. You are a former Federal judge. You are the head of the agency that executes Federal immigration law. Do you have any doubt in your mind–I mean, I have none in mine. Do you have any doubt in your mind that he is constitutionally eligible to become President?

Secretary Chertoff. My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen.

Chairman Leahy. That is mine, too. Thank you.

Can we say Article 6 violation? I guess the sense of the senate overrules everything... including natural/national law.

Where is the list of documentation required and where is the documentation they have on him. We could switch for Putin if that was the case.

The writers and deliberators of the Amendment were very clear, and much is written about the fact that the phrase meant Complete Allegiance and Sole Jurisdiction to the US and no other foreign power. (insert Saudi bow here)

Sigh, re: the FEC:

Just like they didn’t care when he auctioned off spots on Google, received foreign non-citizen, gibberish donations (non-verified), cared if the candidate cut off requirements on his campaign site re: donations, gave lists to ACORN and other outfits to hit maxed out donors (including the diaper donors), had individuals inside polls shilling (on film), thugs outside polls (even during the primaries) re: intimidation, let the RBC (rules comm. DNC) give votes in states where said candidate wasn’t on the ballot (including disqualified ballots), the on-the-spot same day and college campus one day registration and vote outrages, Obama speaking in foreign countries using campaign funds and resulting donations (even if in a hat), no legislative information re: Illinois public service, the issue of renouncing Indonesian citizenship for US re: dual or till this day not having accounting of his campaign or confirmation of all his domestic, affiliation with terror supporting groups with donations, the Nigerian ‘Friends of Obama’ million dollar indictment, campaigning for a candidate openly (on video), for a foreign president, the Gaza phone bank for Obama, not to mention foreign donors.

Do they have rules for those at the FEC and what has been done about it? That’s the documentation I want to see and there are laws for them to follow.

I guess i’ll send more FOIAs.


192 posted on 07/16/2009 5:23:02 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ez 38 Pray.)
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Are you okay?

To bad he ran to run all the states... like those WITH requirements, not just IL.

/s


193 posted on 07/16/2009 5:27:26 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ez 38 Pray.)
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But the constitution does ! !


214 posted on 07/16/2009 6:53:54 PM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much)
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But the constitution does ! !


215 posted on 07/16/2009 6:57:13 PM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much)
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Too bad the FEC isn’t the Constitution, because the Constitution requires a natural-born citizen.


217 posted on 07/17/2009 2:58:50 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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