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Jeb Bush has a message for Tom Tancredo
Colorado Independent ^ | 7/9/09 | John Tomasic

Posted on 07/09/2009 12:10:54 PM PDT by pissant

Sometimes good advice comes from the most unlikely of places. In this case, it comes from a Bush. In an interview with Tucker Carlson for Esquire magazine, Gov. Jeb Bush stated the most obvious fact of American electoral politics today: if the GOP is to rise again, it has to stop hating on Hispanics– or at least it has to stop appearing to be hating on Hispanics! He’s talking about you, Tom Tancredo, non-office-holding cable-news ranter.

[T]he demographics are going against us. Alex [Castellanos, Republican media consultant] told me today, for example, that there is not a district in California where Republicans are out-registering Democrats. Of the fifty-three districts — I think that’s right — not a single one has an improving situation. It’s striking. So you have a shift. There’s more minorities. The voter-registration efforts have been successful by Democrats, ACORN and the like. The swing voters are Hispanic voters in most of the swing states. And Republicans have done a poor job, sending signals that Hispanics aren’t wanted in our party. Which is bizarre.

The people that are on television are the loudest on the immigration issue. The emotion, the anger, is a signal. Put aside the substance, but just in terms of the language. It makes it sound like them and us. And the evidence is that after [the GOP] making major inroads, Hispanics have turned toward the Democratic party in the last two election cycles. Big time. Compare that to how my brother did and how I did and how other Republican candidates have done in the past and you can see a trend line that’s quite disturbing.

It’s possible [to oppose illegal immigration without coming off as anti-Hispanic] but it requires a tone that’s different. If you listen to the conversation, it’s not just words; it’s how they’re spoken. It has to be dispassionate, the language. But it hasn’t been.

Bush also says this smart thing on the favorite tack taken by Republican tea partyists in opposing Pres. Obama:

“Socialism” is pejorative in America, so people stop listening. People are tired of it. That word won’t stick. It’s a turnoff. It doesn’t help.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; hispandering; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; jeb; jebbush; nomorebushs; propaganda; rinobush; tancredo
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I’m no McCain fan. You just weren’t paying attention.


101 posted on 07/09/2009 2:08:13 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: rtbwood
I never said Jeb was dumb.
I said the same people who gave GWB advice seem be giving advice to Jeb.

One of my best friends is Hispanic and she moved her entire family out of CA because it was turning into one big GANG.

I have friends from most nationalities except Eskimo. My hair dresser is Iranian and I work at a company where as a white, I am a minority.

Go take your "hate speech" somewhere else.

102 posted on 07/09/2009 2:14:20 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: colorado tanker

Less than 14% latino....in 2000, huh. That was 1.7% higher than the national average. But it’s up near 20% now.

Lets see how the other border fence hawks did in 2008 then......

In the CA 46th district Rorhbacher won 52-43%, (17% hispanic in 2000).

In CA 42 , Miller won 60-40, (24% hispanic in 2000)

In CA 25, McKeon won 58-42% (27% Hispanic in 2000)

In CA 44, Calvert won 51-48% (35% hispanic in 2000)

In CA 50, Bilbray won 50-45% (19% hispanic in 2000)

In Tx 32, Sessions won 57-40% (36% hispanic in 2000)

In Tx 24, Kenny Marchant won 56-41% (18% hispanic in 2000)

In Tx 14, Ron Paul regularly wins with more than 60% (25% hispanic in 2000)

In Tx Smith won 80-20% (18% hispanic in 2000)

But keep pretending, skippy.


103 posted on 07/09/2009 2:16:10 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: okie01

that’s not a Jeb quote, that is the authors.


104 posted on 07/09/2009 2:16:57 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
You can't point to a single competitive district and show me where being an immigration hawk has won the day. But it has failed to help plenty, including in Arizona, which is overrun by border crossers.

And you can put your "skippy" where the sun don't shine.

105 posted on 07/09/2009 2:20:13 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: pissant

I wish the Bushes would just go away.


106 posted on 07/09/2009 2:23:09 PM PDT by Antoninus (Time to fight back--donate to Free Republic, then donate to www.sarahpac.com)
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To: pissant

Jeb Bush, you and McCainiac are two birds of the same self-defeating chicken wing of the RINO party. Go away and take Juan “Amnesty” McCainiac with you.


107 posted on 07/09/2009 2:27:26 PM PDT by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns a Garden and Gold,)
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To: pissant
Memo to Jeb Bush: You sound like you had a few too many drinks. GOP hate Hispanics? Are you nuts?

It is not that the GOP hates Hispanics. That is a lie. The Hispanics refuse to vote for the GOP, not even to the pandering John Sidney McCain. You, Jeb Bush are an embarrassment to this country.

108 posted on 07/09/2009 2:33:52 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: colorado tanker

So “competitive” districts are the ones that only dems or rinos win?? LOL. You keep changing the rules skippy. First it was just hispanic populations, now its “competitive”.

Well Bilbray and Calvert and Rohrbacher were fairly competive, in a state that went 61% to 37% for the marxist quisling. So there’s three.

Now an uncompetive race was Mccain getting his ass handed to him and losing NM and Nevada and FL and CO, states carried by Bush, after fellating the hispanic activists just like you are doing, skippy.


109 posted on 07/09/2009 2:34:25 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I believe Jeb is referring to some stuff Tancredo said about hispanics in Miami, which were way off base, and just plain ignorant (he basically insulted Cuban Americans, a strong Republican base). That turned me of to Tank, but I forgave him, and he has appeared good to me again as of late.


110 posted on 07/09/2009 2:51:45 PM PDT by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: pissant

Oh goodness. Jebthro must be thinking about running for POTUS. Family friends must need more Chinie business.


111 posted on 07/09/2009 3:21:38 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: throwback
I'm fine with letting tons of Mexicans in if they're educated and skilled

80% vote Democrat, are you fine with that?

the brown vote got O elected even though 55% of whites voted Queeg

112 posted on 07/09/2009 3:30:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life...........Sarah Palin, there is no substitute)
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To: colorado tanker
I’m no McCain fan. You just weren’t paying attention.

#73: McCain recanted his past position by the election, which came after four years of immigrant bashing by Republicans.

I thought you meant by that statement that McC had the wrong "tone," i.e. he became, in your way of looking at it, another so-called "immigrant basher." Tell me what you did mean by "recanted."

113 posted on 07/09/2009 4:24:21 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: pissant
So which Hispanics are we supposed to support? The ones who are part of LaRaza? How about MEChA, LULAC, PRLDEF or maybe MALDEF? Maybe La Voz de Aztlan or the Christopher Columbus haters? How about the Hispanic Caucus or the Brown Berets? Maybe the hundreds of thousands if not millions of Mexican flag waving masses? How about any number of white hating, culture changing, country destroying Hispanic based groups or supporters?

Go **** yourself Jeb!

114 posted on 07/09/2009 4:36:56 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: pissant
What I want to know is WHY we HAVE to grant amnesty to the criminal invaders from south of the border? Long before we do that, we should try a "guest worker program." They do NOT have to be citizens of America. Period. End of story.

LaRaza, MEChA, Lulac, etc are waiting in the shadows to be granted citizenship so they can "reclaim their land."

Of course, we can't expect Jeb to understand because he's married to one of them from south of the border. I will NEVER vote for another Bush. Period. End of story!!!

115 posted on 07/09/2009 6:10:06 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: pissant

Jeb can go straight to hell!

In the meantime why doesn’t hw move his sorry backside to Mexico!


116 posted on 07/09/2009 6:34:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: rtbwood
It’s the attitude, the way things are said.

I'm sorta jumping in here, uninvited....but did you hear about the Mexicans who held a huge "Farce of July" get together out here on America's birthday? I'm sorry, but THEY are the racists...the radical ones...not we who wish to keep our culture and our laws as is. LAWS. Ya know. Laws.

117 posted on 07/09/2009 9:48:40 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: pissant
It’s possible [to oppose illegal immigration without coming off as anti-Hispanic] but it requires a tone that’s different. If you listen to the conversation, it’s not just words; it’s how they’re spoken. It has to be dispassionate, the language. But it hasn’t been.

It's the pro-illegal immigration side that has made this about Hispanics. I've told Hispanics that Americans were promised a ONE TIME amnesty by Reagan, and that's a promise we expect our government to keep. It's not my fault most illegals are Hispanics. If most were Germans... I'd be just as upset, but you can be sure the Hispanics would not be fighting to legalize them. They are the ones who have made this about ethnicity.

118 posted on 07/09/2009 10:14:36 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: colorado tanker

me too ...This board is full of people who cant think about this issue without foaming at the mouth


119 posted on 07/09/2009 10:19:16 PM PDT by woofie
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To: pissant

Jeb Bush may be right - - clearly, McCain’s pandering worked miracles for him with the Hispanic vote.
Didn’t it?


120 posted on 07/09/2009 10:24:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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