It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin...
1 posted on
07/07/2009 6:12:05 PM PDT by
Pyro7480
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2 posted on
07/07/2009 6:13:40 PM PDT by
Pyro7480
("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
To: Pyro7480
AP and Reuters, along with the rest of the left-wing Government Run Media, have been shilling for communism for the last 50 years. As soon as the American people get a little taste of what it really means, they run the other direction.
3 posted on
07/07/2009 6:16:29 PM PDT by
Steely Tom
(RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
To: Pyro7480
“It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin.”
Not a surprise if one’s entire mindset, including one’s religious beliefs, is shaped by one form or another of parochial American politics.
5 posted on
07/07/2009 6:18:00 PM PDT by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: Pyro7480
“It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin...”
Pyro, I can’t speak for the article, but the Pope is clearly calling for a true world political authority (with teeth) that’s mission is to redistribute wealth. That’s not spin. That’s fact.
To: Pyro7480
Pope Benedict is much wiser than the stooges that report on him for AP and Reuters.
7 posted on
07/07/2009 6:20:31 PM PDT by
pissant
(THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
To: Pyro7480
The Godless Communists speak again.
8 posted on
07/07/2009 6:21:19 PM PDT by
EagleUSA
To: Pyro7480; Kolokotronis
Pyro,
I know you have seen this. I am quoting salient points...
67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. ...
To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. ...
Furthermore,
such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights
[148]. Obviously it would
have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums.
To: Pyro7480
I think a lot of people are missing this line:
"The Church does not have technical solutions to offer[10] and does not claim to interfere in any way in the politics of States.[11]"
The Holy Father is not saying the economy should be under the rule of some one-world government. He's saying if we continue with the current, globalized economic model, there will need to be such a system out of necessity to prevent oppression or further dehumanization. He poses no objections to scrapping a globalized economy entirely if there's another system the world is willing to adopt, nor is the Holy Father in a position to dictate which economic model is best.
Sometimes it helps to read more than a sentence of a 100-page document. There's a lot of great stuff in there.
24 posted on
07/07/2009 6:57:23 PM PDT by
mike182d
("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
To: Pyro7480
What many of today’s generation forget is that the Catholic Church was the greatest opponent of Communism and collectivism after the Second World War. I can still remember the nuns in my school warning about what would happen to the world if the reds won the cold war. The fact that some of these same nuns had been raped and maimed by red army troops in Eastern Europe at the end of that war lent those lessons a special poignancy.
33 posted on
07/07/2009 7:42:33 PM PDT by
Larry381
("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
To: Pyro7480
**It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin...**
It sure didn’t take them long to do it either.
36 posted on
07/07/2009 9:57:20 PM PDT by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Pyro7480
37 posted on
07/07/2009 9:57:41 PM PDT by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
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38 posted on
07/07/2009 9:58:13 PM PDT by
narses
(http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
To: Pyro7480; Salvation; NYer
Spin indeed. I'm reading this slowly and carefully and, quite frankly, BXVI has written one of the most brilliant social commentaries of our day. There's so much there and it's a grave disservice to anyone who truly wishes to understand what the teaching is to rely on secular forces for that information. It requires study and some knowledge of the writings of Leo XIII, Paul VI and JPII in the proper context.
I fear that this one is going to be judged as Humanae Vitae is - widespread acceptance of a half-asked nontruth where no one bothers to learn the theology and reasoning behind it because of excised passages. That is intellectually lazy and proves a lot of BXVI's points in the encyclical itself.
46 posted on
07/08/2009 4:26:29 AM PDT by
Desdemona
(Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue. http://www.thekingsmen.us/)
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49 posted on
07/08/2009 5:53:20 AM PDT by
NYer
("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
To: Pyro7480
I don’t believe 1 in 100 commentators have read it. I’m only on page 3 so far!
50 posted on
07/08/2009 6:41:01 AM PDT by
Tax-chick
(In addition to living on the Riviera, the Goths ...)
To: Pyro7480
It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin... Fallen for it?
Try "leaped upon it."
52 posted on
07/08/2009 7:10:14 AM PDT by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Pyro7480
Actually, I think there may have been some trouble-makers doing the English translation of the document. I would like to see the words Benedict actually used that were translated as “redistribution of wealth” in English.
53 posted on
07/08/2009 7:47:38 AM PDT by
Antoninus
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To: Pyro7480
Cant; understand what the pope is saying without going by and reading Rerum Novarum by Leo XIII.
64 posted on
07/08/2009 3:39:59 PM PDT by
RobbyS
(ECCE homo)
To: Pyro7480
What part of wealth redistribution don't you understand?
"In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. "
That doesn't need to be spun.
"there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good, and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums."
There's no spinning this: He favors a strong UN and a one-world authority that exists for the COMMON GOOD.
65 posted on
07/08/2009 5:22:52 PM PDT by
Hilda
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