[Pyro7480]

It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin...

[Pyro7480]

Catholic ping!

[Steely Tom]

AP and Reuters, along with the rest of the left-wing Government Run Media, have been shilling for communism for the last 50 years. As soon as the American people get a little taste of what it really means, they run the other direction.

[Kolokotronis]

“It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin.”

Not a surprise if one’s entire mindset, including one’s religious beliefs, is shaped by one form or another of parochial American politics.

[PetroniusMaximus]

“It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin...”

Pyro, I can’t speak for the article, but the Pope is clearly calling for a true world political authority (with teeth) that’s mission is to redistribute wealth. That’s not spin. That’s fact.

[pissant]

Pope Benedict is much wiser than the stooges that report on him for AP and Reuters.

[EagleUSA]

The Godless Communists speak again.

[PetroniusMaximus]

Pyro,

I know you have seen this. I am quoting salient points...

 

67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. ...

 

To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. ...

 

Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights[148]. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums.

 

Full document: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.htm

[mike182d]

I think a lot of people are missing this line:

"The Church does not have technical solutions to offer[10] and does not claim “to interfere in any way in the politics of States.”[11]"

The Holy Father is not saying the economy should be under the rule of some one-world government. He's saying if we continue with the current, globalized economic model, there will need to be such a system out of necessity to prevent oppression or further dehumanization. He poses no objections to scrapping a globalized economy entirely if there's another system the world is willing to adopt, nor is the Holy Father in a position to dictate which economic model is best.

Sometimes it helps to read more than a sentence of a 100-page document. There's a lot of great stuff in there.

[Larry381]

What many of today’s generation forget is that the Catholic Church was the greatest opponent of Communism and collectivism after the Second World War. I can still remember the nuns in my school warning about what would happen to the world if the reds won the cold war. The fact that some of these same nuns had been raped and maimed by red army troops in Eastern Europe at the end of that war lent those lessons a special poignancy.

[Salvation]

**It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin...**

It sure didn’t take them long to do it either.

[Salvation]

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[Desdemona]

Spin indeed. I'm reading this slowly and carefully and, quite frankly, BXVI has written one of the most brilliant social commentaries of our day. There's so much there and it's a grave disservice to anyone who truly wishes to understand what the teaching is to rely on secular forces for that information. It requires study and some knowledge of the writings of Leo XIII, Paul VI and JPII in the proper context.

I fear that this one is going to be judged as Humanae Vitae is - widespread acceptance of a half-asked nontruth where no one bothers to learn the theology and reasoning behind it because of excised passages. That is intellectually lazy and proves a lot of BXVI's points in the encyclical itself.

[NYer]

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[Tax-chick]

I don’t believe 1 in 100 commentators have read it. I’m only on page 3 so far!

[Petronski]

It seems that some FReepers have fallen for the spin...

Fallen for it?

Try "leaped upon it."

[Antoninus]

Actually, I think there may have been some trouble-makers doing the English translation of the document. I would like to see the words Benedict actually used that were translated as “redistribution of wealth” in English.

[RobbyS]

Cant; understand what the pope is saying without going by and reading Rerum Novarum by Leo XIII.

[Hilda]

What part of wealth redistribution don't you understand?

"In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. "

That doesn't need to be spun.

"there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good, and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums."

There's no spinning this: He favors a strong UN and a one-world authority that exists for the COMMON GOOD.