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Biden: If Israel Wants to Bomb Iran, We Can't Stop Them
Debkafiles ^ | July 5, 2009 17:51 PM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 07/06/2009 10:31:54 AM PDT by lewisglad

In an interview with ABC's George Stephanoupolos taped Saturday, vice president Joseph Biden said in answer to a question: "Look, Israel can determine for itself — it's a sovereign nation — what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else." Whether we agree or not? The interviewer asked. "Whether we agree or not," said the vice president.

This was the first time a senior Obama administration official left Israeli the military option against Iran's nuclear sites. DEBKAfile's Washington sources note that the vice president has the reputation for fast draws which are sometimes later modified by "clarifications." If this time Biden's statement was coordinated with the president, it would mean that the administration has withdrawn its veto against Israel's resort to military action to curtail Iran's drive for a bomb before diplomacy has been fully tested.

He went on to say: "They're entitled to do that. Any sovereign nation is entitled to do that. But there is no pressure from any nation that's going to alter our behavior as to how to proceed. What we believe is in the national interest of the United States, which we, coincidentally, believe is also in the interest of Israel and the whole world.

"And so there are separate issues. If the Netanyahu government decides to take a course of action different than the one being pursued now, that is their sovereign right to do that. That is not our choice. "

Stephanopoulos persisted: But just to be clear here, if the Israelis decide Iran is an existential threat, they have to take out the nuclear program, militarily the United States will not stand in the way?

Biden: "Look, we cannot dictate to another sovereign nation what they can and cannot do.

Interviewer: You say we can't dictate, but we can, if we choose to, deny over-flight rights here in Iraq. We can stand in the way of a military strike.

Biden: "I'm not going to speculate, George, on those issues, other than to say Israel has a right to determine what's in its interests, and we have a right and we will determine what's in our interests."

Intelligence sources say: The last three days from Friday, June 3, have seen a spate of reports all pointing in one direction: Israel's air and sea capabilities for dealing with Iran and its military nuclear program. US vice president Biden's statement, unless it is withdrawn, looks like the Obama administration's seal on a possible Israeli attack for pre-empting a nuclear-armed Iran. "Israel can determine for itself whether or not to bomb Iran's nuclear program," he said.

Until now, administration officials referred a potential Israeli bombardment of Iran as a disaster whose consequences were impossible to predict.

Now the ball is squarely in Binyamin Netanyahu's court, whether because Washington hopes Israel will pull the Iranian chestnut out of the fire, or to call Israel's bluff. Netanyahu and defense minister Ehud Barak are now free of America restraints for backing up their statements about the need to pre-empt a nuclear-armed Iran before the Islamic Republic poses an existential threat to Israel.

Asked if Americans would again put their lives on the line again if violence flares back up in Iraq, Biden flatly said "no."

The ABC correspondent notes that in the interview Biden used the phrases "sovereign nation" six times in the interview, once in reference to Iraq, once to the US and three times in referring to Israel.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bhomiddleeast; iraniannukes; vpbiden
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21 posted on 07/06/2009 1:06:43 PM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: lewisglad
What we believe is in the national interest of the United States, which we, coincidentally, believe is also in the interest of Israel and the whole world.

Sounds like a full-bore green-light go-ahead to me!

22 posted on 07/06/2009 1:08:41 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: lewisglad

I can only imagine the next meeting between Joe and Hussein.


23 posted on 07/06/2009 1:10:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lewisglad

DEBKA....

Not a reliable source.


24 posted on 07/06/2009 2:19:17 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: lewisglad

Israel’s a sovereign nation? It is? Is that really Joe Biden saying that? Wow. What a concession. Israel is a sovereign nation. Now I feel tingly all over.


25 posted on 07/06/2009 3:02:06 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: ml/nj

In Efrat? A play room? Where? How dare they?


26 posted on 07/06/2009 3:05:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: lewisglad
"Look, Israel can determine for itself — it's a sovereign nation — what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else."

Kind of gives a whole new dimension to the term Politically "Stupid" don't you think?

27 posted on 07/06/2009 3:10:47 PM PDT by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: lewisglad
Joe Blowhard is in charge now! (while Barry Soetoro is in Russia)

The Frick and Frack of American politics.

28 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:49 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: lewisglad

Add this under the “No freaking Crap!” category.


29 posted on 07/06/2009 3:38:37 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: a fool in paradise

I think they are trying to spark a war!!! They seem to want total chaos in the world. To bring forth their dastardly plans.


30 posted on 07/06/2009 4:58:41 PM PDT by rlferny
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To: lewisglad

At least he’s being consistent with the ethical relativity...


31 posted on 07/06/2009 7:19:22 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: lewisglad
Biden is likely a bit “touched” as they say. But, unlike his boss, he really does love the concept of a free and powerful America. Watch Biden closely. If he keeps speaking out, it suggests he's positioning himself. Also keep any eye on Hillery. She's been very quiet of late. If Obama’s birth certificate doesn't turn out well, Biden is POTUS and Hillery is VP. Just like Nixon selected Ford and Ford selected Rockefeller. Pelosi is not in the mix.
32 posted on 07/06/2009 11:30:28 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: yorkie01
This administration is full filling their goal and that is to make Americans look like a bunch of idiots..When most of them are at least the ones voting for this trash in Washington..we will soon be looked upon as peasant's as soon as the Obama people get finished with this country..Look at Uncle crazy Joe now that is a laugh a minute..And the Obama’s that are making this one big holiday traveling around the world with out money
33 posted on 07/07/2009 6:39:38 AM PDT by PLD
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