But IMHO the GOP is beyond repair like this un-restorable Rust-Bucket. IMHO, junk it, it is time to move on.
Posted on 07/03/2009 6:40:30 PM PDT by taildragger
Like many here, I am a political prognosticator. I followed Sarah Palin here for almost 2 years and told friends last May if McCain only chance is to pick Palin. So what does Sarah Palin's latest move mean?
Let's face it. Obama was the 'perfect storm.' The year white folks finally had a chance to show they weren't racists. The year the young voters could show those old folks that voting for a black guy was OK. The year the women could show men that a black guy can be a good prez, too.
The people who voted for obi-one were ALL able to pretend that a monster storm wasn't brewing and that they should be running for cover. The weatherman was telling them is was going to be 75 degrees, sunny, and low humidity, with a light breeze for the next four years.
Tough to beat, even though they almost did it.
The obstacles the Incumbents have put in the way of third Party candidates are FORMADABLE,and with we the Taxpayers funding ACORN with Billions they have the Money and the Organization to throw all kinds of legal roadblocks in Her way.She would have to raise astronomical amounts of money
bump
No, I know dems who are much more conservative than John McCain. Party labels are less meaningful than actions.
If you want to talk to Her, Fine give her your resignation and tell her That you think she should Take the Job
But IMHO the GOP is beyond repair like this un-restorable Rust-Bucket. IMHO, junk it, it is time to move on.
Iran
I called it the America party, not the American Independent party. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind a push to give the American
party some real teeth with some highly charismatic folks
joining the fray.
Explosive new vote fraud developments continue to rock Ohio and Florida
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
March 23, 2007
Breaking news in vote fraud cases in both Ohio and Florida are feeding a firestorm of controversy that is likely to continue escalating, with major implications for the 2008 election and the future of e-voting machines.
In Ohio, Jennifer Brunner, the newly elected Secretary of State, has received two of the four resignations she requested from the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections (BOE). The two Democrats on the Board, Edward Coaxum, Jr. and Loree Soggs, have complied with her call for their departures from Cleveland’s scandal-ridden election authority.
However, Robert Bennett, who chairs both the Cuyahoga BOE and the Ohio Republican Party, has thus far refused Brunner’s request. So has Sally Florkiewicz, Bennett’s fellow Republican on the BOE. Should they continue with their refusal to resign, Brunner has threatened to hold public hearings, in the wake of which she could force the resignations.
Meanwhile, the Associated Press reports that a criminal investigation is underway which centers on the Cuyahoga BOE’s conduct of the November 2006 election. Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Bill Mason has turned again to Erie County Prosecutor Kevin Baxter who recently won felony convictions of two BOE workers for rigging the 2004 presidential recount for another criminal investigation. Baxter will be investigating “possible criminal wrongdoings” related to ballot security and the scanning of absentee ballots.
A Cleveland State University Center for Election Integrity study has exposed various election irregularities in Cuyahoga County in the 2006 election. Among the most egregious were the BOE’s failure to secure the dual keys (one for the Dems and one for the Republicans) required for the vote counting rooms; that they allowed shared computer passwords; and that they allowed an unexplained cable connection to the county’s vote counting computer.
The Free Press also has viewed a video shot by Jeff Kirkby showing Cuyahoga County election workers downloading the county’s election data onto portable laptops that were allegedly allowed to go home with BOE employees. These practices raise serious concerns over election data security.
Massive computer failures during the May 2006 primary led in February 2007 to the resignation of Michael Vu, who was the executive director of the Cuyahoga BOE at the time. Both Bennett and Vu pushed for the $20 million purchase of Diebold voting machines over strenuous objections from election protection activists, whose concerns were cablecast in the HBO documentary “Hacking Democracy” shown nationwide just prior to the November 2006 election.
On March 21, the Dayton Daily News reported that “After two days of tests, the results are in: About 2,500 people cast ballots in November on 56 malfunctioning electronic touch-screen voting machines in Montgomery County, said Steve Harsman, county board of elections director.”
The Free Press has previously reported that there were nearly 30,000 undervotes in Montgomery County during the 2006 gubernatorial race, meaning an abnormally high 13.67% of all voters reportedly recorded no vote for the state’s highest office. (See chart posted with this article at the Freepress.org web site courtesy of Pete Johnson and CASE-Ohio) Similar undervote problems exist in Adams, Darke, Highland, Mercer and Perry counties.
Meanwhile, Jonathon Simon has informed the Free Press that the Election Defense Alliance (EDA) is analyzing data from Adams County as part of a project to compare exit polls to actual votes. In the 2004 election, the exit polls showed John Kerry winning, while the actual machine and computer tabulated results gave the state to Bush by 118,000 votes.
Meanwhile, in Florida, internal memos from the ES&S voting machine company indicate an e-voting machine created an undervote problem, according to Wired News. In Sarasota County, 18,000 ballots recorded no votes in a hotly contested congressional race.
“But the memo, which the company sent to Florida election officials before the state’s September primary, revealed that the iVotronic machines had a flaw that sometimes caused machines to respond slowly to a voter’s touch ‘beyond the normal time a voter would expect to have their selection highlighted.’ The memo stated that a software upgrade was required but couldn’t be certified before the September election. In its absence, ES&S sent election officials a warning sign to post at polls advising voters that they might need to press the screen for several seconds before their votes would register,” wrote Wired News.
Reginald Mitchell, lawyer for People for the American Way, told Wired News that “this memo is the smoking gun….”
The six counties under investigation in Ohio all used Diebold machines suggesting that both major suppliers of e-voting machines have similar flaws that create undervotes.
These waves of breaking news about serious problems in the conduct of the 2004 and 2006 elections, and in the performance of electronic voting machines in the two states that have decided the last two presidential elections, make it a virtual certainty that we have barely begun to see the full extent of what has really been done to the American democratic system.
That was way back then. 2006 was a test run.
Cuyahoga County board investigating voter registration fraud
http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/27595524.html
ACORN said it has registered 86,000 new voters in the Cleveland area. Interesting factoid, Cleveland population has dropped 10% as of 2007, 438,042. So they registered 20% of the voting age population in 2008? Wow! Now remember that census number includes kids, so 20% newly registered voters is a low-ball estimate.
Over 1 Million Voters Registered!
http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12047
...the pace of new registration is 60 percent higher than in 2000... Really, just another interesting factoid.
Fast forward now to:
Video at link
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/06/cuyahoga_county_commissioner_j_4.html Sorry to subject you to watching these two videos, but listen to the accusations flying. This area is run by democrats for the last 40 years.
Naw...they couldn’t deliver millions of votes with this stuff now happening all over the country in democrat areas now could they?
And how many of those were dead or cartoon characters?
How about the TRUE AMERICAN PARTY!!
Maybe the best path is For Sarah to simply go independent, with no party affiliation at all. In this, she carries none of the negative baggage of a party, or the names associated with lost elections. The population is disgusted by what they see in politics and she can use that as momentum to possibly motivate that large % of the population that never votes because they don’t see it as important.
In the coming months and years, many will be negatively affected by the Fascist in chief and the leftist policies that will even further micro-manage their lives, regulate every aspect of freedom, cowtow to global tyrants, and tax them into near poverty. This will play into her hands. In previous attempts for third party candidates, there was not the looming depression and/or the collapse of the dollar that we potentially face. Should that depression/hyper-inflation come to pass(and I, along with many others, believe it will), a third party with a “throw the bums out and get away from the good old boy system” message would have huge momentum.
You can be a follower or you can lead yourself and help fix the GOP. Thanks to 3rd parties and people staying home irked at McCain (who I didn't even like), I'm now stuck thanks to coattails with a dim congressman instead of a conservative Republican in Tim Walberg who was about as conservative as Palin. Quit throwing the Walbergs under the bus with your temper tantrums. Not everyone is like McCain or Romney.
The choice is a suicide solution in a 3rd party that nobody, and I mean nobody, not Perot, not Roosevelt, not Wallace, not Buchanan, not Thurmond, not Nader, not the Libertarians, have succeeded at since 1856, or to fix the only viable shot at a conservative party there is.
Of the likely contenders for the 2008 election, I did indeed prefer Romney over Giuliani and McCain, precisely for the reasons I stated — strong private sector experience (and also the extremely low chance of his producing any tabloidy scandals, which was certainly an issue with Giuliani). Romney is way too comfortable with socialist programs for my taste, but so were all the other viable contenders. If I have to have a President who’s comfortable with socialism, I prefer to have one that at least thoroughly understands capitalism and knows from experience how to make it work.
It’s not clear yet who the viable contenders for 2012 will be, so I have no idea who I’d support. What is clear is that a solid majority of the voters in this country are very, very comfortable with huge federal government, so unfortunately, any viable contenders will be way too socialist for my taste. That doesn’t mean I’m going to bang my head against a wall trying to promote some candidate who’s utterly unelectable. Of the people who want to be President, Ron Paul is probably the closest to my ideal as far as political philosophy is concerned, but I recognize that he is absolutely totally unelectable (and wouldn’t be able to get anything through Congress and the Senate even if he got elected somehow), so I won’t waste a single synapse promoting him as a Presidential candidate.
Presidential elections shouldn’t be an exercise in demonstrating one’s ideological purity — that just ensures that people like Obama get elected. The point is to get someone elected who is going to move the country at least incrementally in the right direction, and the first step is to get a Republican nominee who has a realistic chance of getting more than half the votes on Election Day.
And by the way, as should be obvious, the post you quoted was in response to somebody to who seemed to think I was a Giuliani supporter. Pointing out something positive about a candidate doesn’t mean the mean the person doing the pointing is slavishly devoted to that candidate. Some of us actually engage in intellectually honest assessment of candidates, rather than jumping on one candidate’s bandwagon and proceeding to heap unbridled praise on that candidate while dismissing any negative points that anyone raises as false or irrelevant and heaping unbridled scorn on all the other candidates.
I have no idea who I’ll support in 2012, since it’s not at all clear who will be running — it’s entirely possible Romney won’t even run, especially if Obama is looking near-impossible to beat at that point — Romney obviously wants to be President, but he’s young enough that 2012 isn’t his only option. But I know I will NOT be supporting some far right wing candidate who would absolutely guarantee Obama a second term. We can’t afford 8 consecutive years of a President who’s determined to move the country closer to full-blown socialism. If Bloomberg emerges as a serious contender, I would definitely support Romney over him, if Romney is running — while Bloomberg does have impressive private sector experience, and has done a decent job in keeping NYC’s powerful unions at bay, RKBA is absolutely at the top of my list of priorities (because it’s the means to protect all our other rights) and Bloomberg just flat-out doesn’t get the Second Amendment and doesn’t want to.
I would hardly expect a huge crowd in Wasilla on the Friday afternoon before the 4th of July, but if at least a couple of national news organizations could dispatch a freelance camera crew, I would think at least a couple dozen of her Wasilla neighbors could make the 5 or 10 minute trip to be there.
It was really a ridiculous spectacle, and one that no competent politician would have allowed to happen. She looked and sounded like a candidate for a high school student government presidency rehearsing a speech in front of a few friends, with the real thing slated for the next day at the high school auditorium. The fact that her voice was being drowned out by the local wildlife at a number of points, but never by cheering humans, reduced the performance to absurdity.
"I’m not necessarily a Rudy-for-President cheeleader. He’d be a heck of a lot better than Hillary/Edwards/Obama, and I won’t be miserable if he gets elected. On balance, though, I favor Romney out of the current crop of serious contenders"
"There’s also no reason to hold Track up as a “hero” because he enlisted in the army. It appears he had few other employment opportunities, and if his academic record had been worthy of anything other than an open-enrollment community college, I’m sure we would have heard about it. Maybe he’ll eventually do something that makes him a hero, but right now, he’s just another kid who enlisted because he didn’t have any better opportunities, and he deserves the same level of respect for the choice as any inner city kid who picked the army over the neighborhood drug-running gang."
None of this means we should vote for Obama-Biden over McCain-Palin, but the silly Palin-worshipping really ought to stop.
45 posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:27:16 AM by GovernmentShrinker
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