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Feds could seize Calif. parks if closed by budget (threaten to seize 6 state parks if closed)
ap on Sac bee ^ | 7/1/09 | AP

Posted on 07/01/2009 12:41:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The California governor's office says federal officials are threatening to seize six state parks if they are closed to help balance the state's budget.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has proposed closing 220 state parks.

But the National Park Service warned in a letter to Schwarzenegger that six of those parks are on former federal land that could revert to the U.S. government if they are not kept open as parks.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; feds; parks; schwarzenegger; seize; stateparks
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To: Jewbacca

Can you elaborate on your response that exempted Texas? Texas is the exception to what? Thanks.


61 posted on 07/01/2009 3:57:41 PM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: NorwegianViking

Texas, the state, owned all the land within its borders upon joining the union. Came from being its own country.

Hawaii is apparently the same, and perhaps the original 13.


62 posted on 07/01/2009 4:10:24 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: loungitude

In my mind, I would have 50,000 soldiers “fix the border” issue; suspend all Federal pensions (save military) and enforce 2-term limits, period.

No more Dept. of Education, EPA, Energy, etc.

20% flat tax, no deductions.


63 posted on 07/01/2009 4:17:01 PM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think there would be real outrage on this thread if it were a state other than California. Imagine if the Federal Government was going to ‘take’ your state parks.


64 posted on 07/01/2009 4:33:11 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: a fool in paradise
is that all the boy does... eat ice cream???
65 posted on 07/01/2009 4:40:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good. Looks like the illegals will have to have their BBQ’s elsewhere.


66 posted on 07/01/2009 5:04:48 PM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: NormsRevenge

why are parks closing.... just because there is no money to “man” the parks with rangers... they should remain open to the people who “own” them.

idiots all.

t


67 posted on 07/01/2009 5:07:07 PM PDT by teeman8r (i liked GWB... really, i did.)
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To: Arkinsaw
"...and rewrite it's Constitution (without Proposition 13)."

They do that and literally millions are out of here in one fell swoop, myself included.

68 posted on 07/01/2009 5:08:42 PM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: Chode

No, he eats pie too.


69 posted on 07/01/2009 5:10:45 PM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: CodeToad
I always thought the US Constitution forbid the feds from owning State lands.

What's this "US Constitution" of which you speak?

~Obama

70 posted on 07/01/2009 5:21:33 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: April Lexington
Maybe the Federal government should take California back and reallocate it as 5 separate states (to conservative majorities)...

Good idea:
-Northern
-The Gay Bay
-The Valley
-Hollyweird
-San Deigo

71 posted on 07/01/2009 5:24:37 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
It only lasted 25 days, until Fremont showed up with a small group of US soldiers and claimed California for the USA, whereupon the Bear Flag Republic pretty much vanished without a trace.

Yup.

And therein lies a good idea. It's high time to start flying that again, right along with my American Civil Flag (sans gold fringe of course :-)


72 posted on 07/01/2009 5:41:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Indolence is the enemy of a republic.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

California was a Republic before it becamse a state. I do not believe it was ever a territory.


73 posted on 07/01/2009 6:36:38 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The federal government “threatens” to take over the administration and upkeep of 6 California state parks:
How is that a threat, exactly???

OOOh, to the REST of us!
I get it now!


74 posted on 07/01/2009 6:39:20 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: jeffc

Also see the Louisiana Purchase and the purchase of Alaska.

75 posted on 07/01/2009 6:41:58 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: olivia3boys
"I imagine the National Parks might cost more $$ as far as entrance fees?"

Or less.
Picture a place where the parks (and everything else) was efficiently administered....

Besides, you could get one of those "Golden Eagle Passports" or whatever it's called, that would let you into parks anywhere in the nation.

76 posted on 07/01/2009 6:43:11 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: NormsRevenge

I detest the Park Service.


77 posted on 07/01/2009 6:45:16 PM PDT by alarm rider (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh how nice. Headed to a group campout at a CA state park next week, but there's no list.

Note to organizers: Sure your campout has mostly Californians coming, but future campouts need to be in federal or Oregonian parks.

78 posted on 07/01/2009 6:50:18 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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To: SatinDoll
I do not believe it was ever a territory.

Look it up. The Bear Flag Republic lasted 25 days in 1846 and disbanded as soon as US Army forces showed up in Sonoma. Mexico ceded California to the US in 1848 and it became a state in 1850. From at least 1848 to 1850 California was a territory. When the 49ers set out for the gold fields, they weren't heading to the Republic of California. They were heading to the California territory.

79 posted on 07/01/2009 6:55:05 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: All
Folks . . .

Thanks, but I know how and why the feds have these lands. The point I was trying to get across was why should they have this land. When a State got carved out of a Territory, all the land should have been ceeded to the State.

After all, the name of the country is the United States, not the United Federal Lands.

What do you think? Shouldn't the land inside a State belong to the State, and not the feds? If the feds want some land from a State for a park or something, they can pay the State for it.

I know, they already paid someone, or something, for that land (and called it a Territory) and turned it into a State (or States), but after having carved out a State, then deciding to take some back (now the State can't get any tax revenue from this land), the fed should pay for it. The feds are gobbling up State land at a fast clip as it is now (look at what Clinton did). Maybe something like this would slow that down . . .

80 posted on 07/01/2009 6:56:04 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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