Anti-Waxman Reps Took Big Bucks From Big Energy

The Business Insider ^ | 6/29/09

[FromLori]

Here's a not so stunning piece of information from the Center For Responsive Politics.

Representatives that voted against the climate bill received twice the amount of donations on average, since 1989, from the energy sector than the Representatives that voted for it. (The energy sector includes: Oil, Gas, Mining, Utilities, Waste Managment.)

Here's the breakdown for Democrats:

Here's the breakdown for Republicans:

For the full report visit OpenSecrets.

[subterfuge]

Can’t anyone excerpt around here anymore?

[FromLori]

Sorry I can not master how to post graphs or pictures but one day I hope too.

[Bon mots]

The king of taking money from people is Obama.

[Mase]

The energy industry supports legislators who support them rather than algore’s bank account, the destruction of jobs and higher prices that enriches government and their environmental wacko allies. Nope. No surprises there.

[xcamel]

Typical liberal hitpiece

[peeps36]

Does anybody know how much money the supporters of the bill received from the green lobby?

[WOBBLY BOB]

Subprime lobbyists in $370m battle

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ab5cf9aa-39b7-11de-b82d-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1

The top 25 US originators of subprime mortgages – the risky assets that sparked the global financial crisis – spent almost $370m in Washington over the past decade on lobbying and campaign donations as they tried to ward off tighter regulation of their industry, an investigation has shown...

Most of the top 25 originators, most of which are now bankrupt, were either owned or heavily financed by the nation’s largest banks, including Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, JPMorgan and Bank of America. Together, they originated $1,000BN in subprime mortgages in 2005-07 – almost three-quarters of the total...

The banks, which have received the vast bulk of the $700bn in troubled asset relief funds issued since last October, also supported the lobbying effort to prevent tighter regulation of the subprime market.

Nine of the top 10 lenders were in California, one of the states badly affected by the housing crisis that emerged after a surge in lending to riskier, or subprime, borrowers, many of whom were forced to foreclose.

At least eight of the top 10 were backed at least in part by banks that have received bank bail-out money...

[subterfuge]

No biggie. Sorry Lori.

[alecqss]

And from whom “pro-Waxman” took big money?
What it is all about “anti-Waxman” headline??! They are so accustomed to think of themselves as anti-Bush all the time during past 8 years, that they start to assume that everything operates on personal hatred??

[FreePaul]

I don't know how Gene Green, D(Texas), can hold his office by voting for this bill. He took a large amount of money from the energy sector yet he represents a blue collar energy district which will be shut down by this abomination.

I hear a lot of locals say that Green is a "good" democrat but he still voted for Pelosi as speaker and moves when she cracks the whip. Maybe the Dems will replace him.

[ETL]

The "inconvenient truth" is that there isn't ANY evidence at all that C02 at levels like we have today can cause global warming.

THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red, CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation/ice-age periods. Look carefully at this historical relationship between temps and CO2 levels (the present is on the right hand side of the graph) and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the data indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000-year period actually *followed* temperature increases -lagging behind by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore continually and dishonestly claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases due to dissolved CO2 being released from warming oceans, never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "run-away greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. In short, there is little if any evidence that CO2 had ever led to increased warming, at least not when the levels were within 10-15 times of what they are today. -etl
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

[iopscusa]

Another piece of crap from the Cluster Deadheads/Business Insider. Why are so many Financial Types full of lefty ideas?

[ETL]

Sorry I can not master how to post graphs or pictures but one day I hope too.

Here is the formula for posting images in html...

You have to replace what's between the quotes in the example with the 'location url' for the image you want to post.

To get a location url, just right click on an image you'd like to post and select from the pop-up menu 'Properties'. Then, highlight, copy and paste the location url into the above formula. You can also right click on it and save it to your computer (in case the image is one-day removed from the original source). However, if you want to post it somewhere, you'd have to first upload it to a site like photobucket.com.

More info here:
http://www.davesite.com/webstation/html/tag_ref.shtml

[AliVeritas]

Gee, can they find out who paid Commie Party USA and ACORN, union thugs to place robocalls re: Cap and healthcare?

How did they get the numbers?

[Lilpug15]

Found this in the Washington Examiner (cap & tr8ors)

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Republicans-who-helped-pass-cap-and-trade-benefitted-from-environmental-donations-49385812.html

Seems they received $$ from enviro groups! I was also looking into the energy companies in New Jersey and there are quite a few! They have an entire state clean energy policy.

[VRWCmember]

Where is the equivalent report on the pro-Waxman voters and their donations from Sierra Club, Marxists for the destruction of America, Global Energy Credit Scam Club, etc.?

[FromLori]

They got them from open secrets but I left them a comment how about the millions obama administration members made?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=56a_1239156110

[Deb]

Waxman is a Marxist...he would do it for nothing.

[FromLori]

Thank you I have tried several times I always get that little box with an x but I will work on it so thank you!