Posted on 06/23/2009 7:35:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
BELGRADE, Serbia -- Serbia's war crimes court convicted a Croatian Serb on Tuesday for his role in the 1991 torture and killing of 200 Croatian prisoners at a pig farm during the Balkan conflicts.
Damir Sireta was sentenced after a six-month trial to serve 20 years in prison for war crimes.
He was the 14th former paramilitary convicted for the killings near the eastern Croatian town of Vukovar during Croatia's 1991-95 war for independence from the former Serb-led Yugoslavia - one of the worst massacres of POWs during the Balkan wars of the 1990s.
Serb paramilitary units seized the victims from the Vukovar hospital and took them to a nearby pig farm. They then tortured the POWs before separating them into groups of seven or eight, spraying them with machine-gun fire and dumping their bodies into a mass grave. Those showing signs of life were shot in the head, according to the verdict.
The 13 others convicted were sentenced in March to prison terms of five to 20 years.
Sireta was tried separately after being extradited from Norway, where he had been living since 1998 after his indictment.
The case has been seen as a test of the Serbian judiciary's ability to punish Serbs responsible for atrocities committed during the wars under former President Slobodan Milosevic.
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You should be ashamed about lying about making posts critical of Roman Catholics or Muslims in the Balkans.
No one can find any such thing.
Perhaps your conscience is fine with lying? That appears to be the case.
You wrote:
“You should be ashamed about lying about making posts critical of Roman Catholics or Muslims in the Balkans.”
I’m not lying in the least so why would I be ashamed? If anyone should be ashamed it should be you for once again failing to prove your ridiculous claim.
“No one can find any such thing.”
And you’re looking? What evidence is there that you’ve looked? If anything you’ve refused to look - after all you have said almost as much since you began posting to me in this thread.
“Perhaps your conscience is fine with lying? That appears to be the case.”
Since I’m CLEARLY not lying my conscience is just fine. Since you have repeatedly failed to substantiate these ridiculous and untruthful claims of yours, maybe you should examine your own conscience. Will that be another EPIC FAIL for you?
No, but I have substantiated them by observing not a single example to support your claims.
You lose.
You wrote:
“No, but I have substantiated them by observing not a single example to support your claims.”
The fact that you have not read my posts doesn’t support your claims. Remember, your original claim - repeated since at least a year-and-a-half ago - can’t seem to be substantiated BY YOU even though you’re the one making the claim.
“You lose.”
Nope. You lose. EPIC FAIL. You can’t even substantiate your original claim. You had to change your claim because of your embarrassment. EPIC FAIL again.
How embarrassing for you...
In the following post to you (Jan. 2008!) I condemned Muslim violence against Serbs and Serb churches in Kosovo. Remember, you wrote: “You should be ashamed about lying about making posts critical of Roman Catholics or Muslims in the Balkans.” Clearly I was ALWAYS telling the truth and you’re the one lying:
To: FormerLib
You wrote:
“Heck, some of our anti-Christian posters on Free Republic stand in Lockstep with the Islamofascists as well!”
So are you now accusing me of being anti-Christian? So, opposing some of the actions of Serbs - even if they were very anti-Christian actions - is now the same thing as being anti-Christian?
“Oh sure, they claim they are really against the handful of Communists that still exist in Serbia, but they just can’t bring themselves to condemn the destruction of Christian churches, monasteries, and graveyards in Kosovo by the KLA and the illegal immigrants from Albania.”
I condemn it. I always have. Why do you repeatedly lie about what I do, what I say, what I won’t say, etc.? You seem to have a serious problem telling the truth.
27 posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:20:25 PM by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Here I readily admit that there are racist Croats (June 2007 – THAT’S TWO YEARS AGO ALREADY):
To: Bokababe
Racism is a problem across Europe.
If you want to see racist displays in the former Yugoslavia, you can always go to a Serbian soccer game:
Here is a video with Serb fans dressed up like Ku Klux Klansman and waving the Stars and Bars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_MS6LNimDU
Here are articles about very recent racist acts at soccer games by Serbs:
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/FinalKross/2006/10/18/Racism_in_Serbia_and_Kezman
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6753585.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/football/06/18/uefa.probe/index.html?eref=rss_latest
So, apparently the Croats aren’t the only ones with a problem.
25 posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:42:38 PM by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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In the following post I point out that Serbs saved many Jews in WWII (again, posted two full years ago):
To: Bokababe
You wrote:
“There isn’t a country on the face of the earth that doesn’t have at least a few racists.”
I would agree.
“How many countries in Europe didn’t have “a Nazi past”?
Search long enough, I am sure that you could find some English who were Nazis, too and call it “England’s Nazi past”.”
I wouldn’t have to search. I was just reading about English SS men last night, in fact.
“Yes, there was a group called the Ljoticevi who were Serb pro-fascists, however prior to the war they never even won a single election anywhere in Serbia. They did not represent the Serb people at all as evidenced by the Serbs turning their back on the deal with Germans that Prince Paul made. As a result, the Germans launched Operation Punishment.”
I don’t think those who murdered Serbs in WWII necessarily represented the Croats either - no matter what their office or title.
“Read Bishop Velemirovic, “The Agony of the Church” (1917), which was actually compiled from a series of lectures given to Christians at St. Margaret’s, Westminster. It was primarily on the subject of Christianity & government. There was an important quote from this book:”He who is numbering every day our hair, and feeding the sparrows, and clothing the grass in the field. He is a greater warrant for our patriotic justice than any of our exaggerated calculations and sentiment about our country and our nation. Alas, no European nation has right to blame the Jews because of their persecution of Christianity in the name of their Patriotism. There exists no country in Europe which has not at some time in the name of a false Patriotism either directly persecuted or abased the Church, or at least subordinated her to the cause of the country or put her in the service of its local and temporal cause.”
I would agree. Stepinac did many things to save Jews. He also saved Serbs. Many Serbs also saved Jews.
“The WWII Patriarch of the Serbian Orhtodox Church, Gavrilo and Bishop Nicholai, were both thrown into Dachau until the end of the war and tortured badly.”
So were more than 2,500 Catholic cardinals, bishops, priests and monks. The Orthodox, after the liberation, used the Catholic chapel to say their first Divine Liturgy.
“”Words to the Serbian People through the Dungeon Window” (referring to Dachau) which is were virtually all of Bishop Nicholai’s detractors quote from, wasn’t even published under Bishop Velimirovic’s name, but rather by a relative 30 years after his death. It was supposedly written from “scraps of paper brought back from Dachau” — which makes little sense, yet no one has seen fit to question that source.”
I don’t believe I quoted this source.
“You must excuse me, m first husband was Jewish, so I guess I am a poor example of your suppsedly” anti-Semitic Serb”!”
Where did I say anything about anti-semitic Serbs in this thread?
58 posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:35:07 PM by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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What is most interesting about the thread from which most if not all of these posts is taken has numerous posts from you where you outright make things up about me and completely fail – EPIC FAIL – to substantiate ANY of them. That’s your pattern of behavior: http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/1855162/posts?q=1&;page=1 That’s your pattern of failure too.
Thus, after checking just two threads I easily found evidence that I have condemned Muslim violence against Serbs, mentioned a good work of Serbs (i.e. saving many Jews in WWII) and also mention Croat racists – while not forgetting that that is a problem across the Balkans! I have been right all along. You, on the other hand, have lied about me for at least two years now and clearly are not interested in stopping anytime soon. It’s really a shame you lied and continue to lie. I have no doubt that you will continue to lie as you have. You have no conscience apparenly.
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