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Posted on 06/21/2009 7:28:09 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Hardastarboard
"Note the comment at the bottom of the document pictured in post number 2. It says something to the effect that this document is proof of the fact of birth in any court proceedings. Can anyone comment on the meaning of that statement?
The fact that he is here and alive is "proof of the fact of birth"...but the statement does not prove he was born in America...which is the question at hand.
The truth will come out sooner or later - when it does, there are a lot of people who are going to be implicated in this cover-up. Maybe he figures he'll have his ACORN goons in place by then to shoot anyone who objects, who knows.
Maybe a few million of us in front of the White House chanting "show us the cert" over and over my focus some attention on this boondoggle.
Or, are we going to keep waiting around for "someone else to do it" until it's too late and we're living in the United Socialist States of America with a third-world dictator at the helm?
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:13:18 AM PDT
by
FrankR
(We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....)
To: usmcobra
Where is a link to the statement.
Thanks
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:13:27 AM PDT
by
Vendome
To: himno hero
You can get official reproductions that would be printed in today’s style. That being said... I don’t know what to believe. I don’t want to look like a “9/11 Truther” but that’s not saying I disbelieve this story either.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:14:01 AM PDT
by
Dan Nunn
(Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
To: Bigh4u2
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:15:00 AM PDT
by
Vendome
To: cycle of discernment
Where’s that story that said the Hawaii department of health said they had Obama’s BC in hand and legally could not release it due to privacy issues?? I know that story was posted during the election.
And I thought the governor of Hawaii also became involved in “sealing” his BC from the public.
Something strange is going on for sure. You can’t tell me that he’s at least— at the VERY least, a converted Muslim— if not: NOT NATURAL BORN.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:15:31 AM PDT
by
CommieCutter
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
To: himno hero
There is NO dispute that the COLB was produced recently, even by those who say it is real.
A COLB is, simply put, a computer generated form, documenting data held in the computer system, on a particular person.
This COLB is NOT the same as an original, long-form Birth Certificate.
This COLB does not list the doctor or hospital, for instance.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:15:36 AM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: cycle of discernment
Any of ye birthers who are better informed on the subject than I: can you tell me if any other BC from Hawaii in the 1960’s uses the word “African?” It would seem more likely that in those days the word was “Negro.” Must be some out there to show the typical usage.
To: Hardastarboard
The purpose of the document must be understood.
A United States citizen, who has a child in a foreign country, can still bring that child back to the United States and have the full rights and obligations of a parent of that child.
However, the child is NOT an “automatic” citizen of the United States, if the child was born on foreign soil.
The laws of citizenship have changed several times over the years. The laws in place when Obama was born would require that his mother was 19 years old. She was 18 years old when Obama was born.
The purpose of the COLB is limited. It is NOT proof of location of the birth.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:20:01 AM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: neodad
I’m kind of wonderinbg what the name “Barack” means. For instance my name is John which roughly translates to God has been gracious.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:20:06 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
To: Polarik
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:20:15 AM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: cycle of discernment
What is hard to believe are the people in high places who actually believe that this document exists,What is even harder for me to believe is that no employees within the Hawaiian Department of Vital Records haven't taken a peek and reported what they saw to assorted politicians.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:22:38 AM PDT
by
fso301
To: CommieCutter
Here is the statement. Polarik is simply making the point that this official does not say if the “original bc” is a foreign one ( why not show this “original”? Foreign born children could get COLBs by request in Hawaii), if it is paper of a computer file, and she never confirms that Obama ws born in Hawaii.
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record,” reads an Oct. 31 statement from Hawaii’s Dr. Chiyome Fukino, who heads the Hawaii office that oversees health records — including birth certificates.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said in the three paragraph statement.
To: fso301
Why has no hospital, doctor, nurse or asociated personnel come forward?
To: Vendome
The color of the document does not matter folks.
I have in my hands, right now, my Kansas Birth Certificate.
It is Blue and Green on Pink.
The document Obama and Fact Check posted, the CLAIM, is a COLB, which is not an original, and is a computer print out of basic data.
We need the original, LONG FORM Birth Certificate, and we might never get to see it.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:24:28 AM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: gov_bean_ counter
Frank Marshal Davis, the Communist, might well be Obama’s real father.
That would explain quite a bit.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:25:17 AM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: cycle of discernment
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:27:14 AM PDT
by
rawcatslyentist
(<P>Oh Yeah<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
To: Iron Munro
Answer ONE question on your census form:
The number of people in your household.
Mail the rest of it back, with the note:
“Barry Soetero will not releases his Birth Certificate, his passport, his school records, his Selective Service records or any other information, and is fighting in court to keep HIS life private. I demand the same privacy.”
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:28:30 AM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: himno hero
My daughter was born in 1961 & has original birth certificate in black & white with all info from Miami beach, FL hospital.
This certificate is not real but a certificate that you can have for birth or marriage but proves nothing.
I dad to show my passport eleven times before getting on a plane for London. My granddaughter one year old had to have a pass port before traveling to London.
The government will not accept a copy like Obama’s green certificate but you need the orginial that is completely filled out when applying for a US passport.
Did he ever travel abroad before becoming a candidate?
If a person has nothing to hide then why be afraid to show it?
Makes a person think something is not kosher...
To: Thommas
I've always wondered about that. It seems that whoever made up the BC wasn't aware that Negro was a term that was not considered derogatory, it simply meant race. Putting African is kind of like putting British or Canadian, not a race identifier. My guess is that one of his 30 something folks had at it, kind of like the fake GW Bush military document...all wrong formatting but you had to be alive and working in the military environment to know it.
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:30:08 AM PDT
by
pepperdog
(As Israel goes, so goes America!)
To: cripplecreek
>"Im kind of wonderinbg what the name Barack means."IIIRC it is the name of the fraudulent winged horse mUhhhHamhead (Pigs be inseminating her) rode from Jerusalem to the moon.
Oh Yeah
Thank You Satan 1:50
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posted on
06/21/2009 8:32:17 AM PDT
by
rawcatslyentist
(<P>Oh Yeah<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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