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To: aft_lizard

“However for ID to be held true an even tougher theory must be proven, that of a Creator. My faith alone is not enough to scientifically prove his existence.”

Couple of points there. 1 - Intelligent design can be proved outside of any specific religion. 2 - Since evolution requires the same leaps of faith as do religions, it must not be taught with tax money, because of the 1st amendment. It serves absolutely no scientific purpose other that socio-religious worldview.


11 posted on 06/08/2009 9:43:46 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Are you stupid? I said I will not argue this, so why reply?

There IS ZERO proof of ID. A watch in the woods or breeding of dogs is not proof. Evolution does require some leaps of faith, this is true. However to say it has no scientific purpose shows your naivete.


16 posted on 06/08/2009 9:56:10 AM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“1 - Intelligent design can be proved outside of any specific religion.”

Yes, ID just notices that there is information in the biological world and even the physical world. This information is highly complex. No where else do we find highly complex messages/data/information without an intelligent agent generating it. So, the universe and biology must have an origin in some thing like intelligence.

However, that intelligence could be some kind of structure build into the world. It does not have to be a Creator God outside of space and time (and thus not open to experimental analysis). We don’t have to resort to “God of the gaps.” IDers are just looking for the structuring agent that gets information into DNA and Eeinstine’s laws and such.

Still, for anyone with an open mind, belief in a Creator God does answer a lot of questions if it were true: such as why does so much of the world look more like art than survival generate miss mash?


55 posted on 06/08/2009 7:15:03 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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