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State may cut federally funded health insurance for children
Ventura County Star ^ | June 7, 2009 | Tom Kisken

Posted on 06/07/2009 9:02:10 AM PDT by Lou Budvis

.... Misty Navarro, Thomas’ mother, makes $18 an hour as an office supervisor in a pediatric clinic. In Healthy Families, her premium is $12 a month. Without the program, she could cover her kids through her employer but it would cost $300 a month.

She doesn’t have the money. She will barely make the $750 a month rent for the Santa Paula town home the family is moving into thanks to a government housing program.

Essentially, she’d be uninsured, scrambling to find ways to continue the treatment Thomas gets to control his weight and minimize his risk of diabetes. If he needed two $1,200 CT scans like he did after jumping off a table when he was 3, she’d be cooked.

“You’re putting yourself in debt,” she said. “It’s awful to have medical bills.”

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The proposal is just that. Advocates expect Democratic legislative leaders to fight to keep at least part of the program but predict the possibility of significant cuts

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(Excerpt) Read more at venturacountystar.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; california; cuts
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To: AuntB

You could not be more right. They have all the money in the world for fancy hair, getting their nails done, and flashy clothes. I make a better than average salary but I shop at Wal-Mart and Target and I am frugal on my clothing. I almost never go to the doctor though my kids and my wife do. We live in an entitlement society and it is making people weak and incapable of taking care of themselves. We have a couple of friends who are younger, can not pay their bills, are as picky as hell and can’t cook for themselves. We’ve tried to help them but I have zero tolerance for silliness and will not enable them.

There is a time when everyone has to grow up and realize the difference between necessity and convenience.


21 posted on 06/07/2009 10:12:48 AM PDT by Maelstorm (There is nothing more pathetic than a Bureaucrat with no one who needs them.)
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To: Maelstorm; AuntB

I agree as well.


22 posted on 06/07/2009 10:13:33 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Maelstorm; GOP_Lady

“There is a time when everyone has to grow up and realize the difference between necessity and convenience.”

Evidently not! Just us conservatives.


23 posted on 06/07/2009 10:17:09 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB

Yes, it’s evident, isn’t it?

I don’t go looking to ANYONE for ANYTHING. Now, that’s freedom and power.


24 posted on 06/07/2009 10:19:45 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Lou Budvis

This is the emotion-dripping exception to the reality that drives the debate on just about any kind of tax increase/government expansion, or reform of government giveaways.

Misty is in a spot, therefore we all need to give up our health insurance choice and enslave ourselves in a system that will eventually case aside Misty and her kids as quickly as it will sacrifice anyone else under health care rationing.

Let’s do it for Misty.


25 posted on 06/07/2009 10:23:28 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: GOP_Lady

“I don’t go looking to ANYONE for ANYTHING. Now, that’s freedom and power.”

Yes, Ma’am. Self reliance. An awesome thing! Kids should be reading Emerson instead of the lefty nonsense being pushed at them.


26 posted on 06/07/2009 10:25:27 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: WackySam
I usually support people's responsibility to pay their own way. YOU DON”T LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. I make $50,000 a year, my wife stays home with the kids. If I didn't have healthy families, I would have to pay $1000 a month for my family insurance. I pay 1500.00 for rent, 3.00 gas, and pay taxes up the wazoo, sometimes you can't pay your way.

Don't say why don't you leave California. I would, but my family is all here and to pick up and leave is not always an option. Before you complain, understand why things happen.

27 posted on 06/07/2009 10:27:02 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: Lou Budvis

I don’t know what making 2,880 dollars a month and can barely afford to make the 750 dollar rent payment....something is seriously wrong with this picture. I did not take taxes out of the 2880 dollars because she barely gets any out but to be fair I would bet she takes home 2,500 dollars a month and cannot easily pay 750 in RENT????????


28 posted on 06/07/2009 10:28:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: kagoots

MY KIDS BEFORE POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 06/07/2009 10:29:30 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: napscoordinator
You just don't get it. You actually think her only expense is rent. What about food, gas, electricity, insurance, utilities. You live in a Red State, you think the whole world should be like you. We live in Communist California, 2880 is nothing here.
30 posted on 06/07/2009 10:32:56 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: kagoots
I'm dying in bills here and all you people can complain she should have enough. You people are driving me nuts.
31 posted on 06/07/2009 10:35:40 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: kagoots

I understand she has other bills, but I would make paying rent the highest priority. The last thing you want is to lose the house. She gets foods stamps, government utility assistance and other bennies. I guess you are right, I am being hard on the lady...NOT!!!


32 posted on 06/07/2009 10:35:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

You are correct.

1. Mortgage/Rent
2. Insurances

Prioritize


33 posted on 06/07/2009 10:38:31 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Lou Budvis

These Sob Stories are always the same, they can’t make a living where they are.

So why don’t they move?

There are many other places where you can make nearly the same money for almost half the cost of living.

I remember I was talking to a lady in San Jose that was living with another person to cover their rent.

I went through her finances and showed her how moving to Washington State would save here about 40% of her income even though she would make a dollar less an hour.

These people don’t know how to make economic decisions, what they need is counseling and not a hand out. They need to move.


34 posted on 06/07/2009 10:39:27 AM PDT by dila813
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To: GOP_Lady
I don’t go looking to ANYONE for ANYTHING. Now, that’s freedom and power.

Are you independently wealthy? If not, then you are probably going to work M-F to earn a paycheck. If that is the case, then you are absolutely dependent on that job being available to earn the money. Your income is dependent on customers patronizing your business to provide cash flow.

35 posted on 06/07/2009 10:40:23 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Let’s not parse too much now. :-)


36 posted on 06/07/2009 10:42:32 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Moonman62

Today you can find adequate housing for less than $750/mo. I am sure she got something “nice” to live in so others can help pay her other bills.


37 posted on 06/07/2009 10:46:25 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000
Where do you live? In Fresno, CA - where I live - this is what $855 will get you:

It's called the Vagabond Inn and it's in Downtown where all the hookers and crack whores live.

38 posted on 06/07/2009 10:58:15 AM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: napscoordinator
I understand she has other bills, but I would make paying rent the highest priority. The last thing you want is to lose the house. She gets foods stamps, government utility assistance and other bennies. I guess you are right, I am being hard on the lady...NOT!!!

Here's a story.

I know of some people who all work at a certain place. They all have the same job description but their individual duties vary slightly. All make about $48K a year.

Most of the people in this job description are female, but the males are married (with working wives). Only one (female) has younger children, one of whom is still a minor.

Almost everyone lives a frugal lifestyle, even the married ones. People bring their lunches, wear modest clothes, take public transit. Some of the single ones have roommates.

The female with younger children has a townhouse with a mortgage, an SUV, eats out a lot, always wears new clothes and shoes, and sends her son to a private school.

I always wondered how she did that.

She's never been married, and her children have different last names.

39 posted on 06/07/2009 10:59:55 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: TightyRighty

Here is a link to the 2007 rental cost data in Santa Paula, which is where she lives: http://www.city-data.com/housing/houses-Santa-Paula-California.html

Note that the mode was just over $600 for the rental data BEFORE the housing crisis collapsed the market (you have to scroll quite a ways). It is nice that she gets to live in a subsidized townhouse, but a small apartment or trailer would do - not as comfortably as the townhouse, I’m sure - but she hasn’t earned that level of comfort.

I used to live in CA (East Palo Alto,Pleasant Hill), but could see where it was going and left.


40 posted on 06/07/2009 11:17:32 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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