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Did Obama Order George Tiller's Murder? (Article about FreeRepublic Alert)
Bliefnet ^ | June 1, 2009 | Steven Waldman

Posted on 06/06/2009 6:24:20 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Zakeet; All
Few conversations are as entertaining or enlightening as a family fight on Free Republic.

No conversation such as this is allowed on leftist boards such as DU or KOS. There is ONE opinion only. Any sort of deviation from the Party Line is preceded with profuse apologies for daring to rock the boat, if only a little.

Regardless of how anyone feels or what views are expressed about the murder of Tiller, the debate here is what is meant by Free Speech.

501 posted on 06/08/2009 11:23:46 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: betty boop

A few years back I took my father, he is 95 now, back to the old family homesteads in Methuen and South Lawrence. The places were not recognizable. However he just this past week received a news clipping about the shad and alewives returning to the Merrimac River near the dam in Lawrence.

To him, the river being cleaned up after years of abuse from the mills and cities promiscuous dumping was a sign of hope.


502 posted on 06/08/2009 11:34:18 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Zakeet

Gosh, I’m famous!


503 posted on 06/08/2009 11:38:36 AM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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To: SnakeDoctor; patriot preacher; upchuck; gridlock; jazminerose; imahawk; Turret Gunner A20; ...

Pinging all quoted.


504 posted on 06/08/2009 11:45:25 AM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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To: Zakeet

I did not feel out of line with my post and the Guy Killed 60,000 Babies in closing I do not feel that he or that fact should go unnoticed.


505 posted on 06/08/2009 12:05:30 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Islander7

“Few conversations are as entertaining or enlightening as a family fight on Free Republic.
No conversation such as this is allowed on leftist boards such as DU or KOS. There is ONE opinion only. Any sort of deviation from the Party Line is preceded with profuse apologies for daring to rock the boat, if only a little.

Regardless of how anyone feels or what views are expressed about the murder of Tiller, the debate here is what is meant by Free Speech.”

Nice post thank you.


506 posted on 06/08/2009 12:07:49 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: blue-duncan
...the river being cleaned up after years of abuse from the mills and cities promiscuous dumping was a sign of hope.

Hope of what? We may have cleaner rivers (and indeed we do), but our politics is as disgustingly filthy as ever. It seems that is something that never gets cleaned up around here....

May God bless your Dad! Ninety-five and still capable of hope! That is truly inspiring to me.

507 posted on 06/08/2009 12:08:35 PM PDT by betty boop (Tyranny is always whimsical. — Mark Steyn)
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To: Zakeet

WOW! I’m honored to have made second place on the Honor Roll part of that cruddy slobber piece over the killing of tht murderous slimeball.


508 posted on 06/08/2009 12:34:40 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Minn
Why is so hard for YOU pinheads to understand the damage this shooter, combined with your moronic comments did to the cause?

Why is it so hard for pinheads like you to understand that continuing to slobber over the death of one murderer amongst the thousands who gleefully have murdered over FIFTY MILLION innocent childrem, in this country alone, since the phony lawsuit -- Roe v. Wade -- gave free licence to any such puke as may want to make a living that way, to murder children , IS NOT going to stop the slaughter?

I'm a bit more concerned for lives of the unborn children than I am about the welfare of a toothless cause which is getting nowhere after decades of sniveling, weeping, moaning and gnashing of teeth.

Never in the mad history of this sorry world has such mass slaughter been condoned by law. The law is supposed to protect people's lives and rights; not condone and encourage the wanton snuffing out of those precious gifts from God.

509 posted on 06/08/2009 1:07:25 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Minn
If I was JimRob, I'd have banned every one of you, for the good of the prolife cause, and conservatism in general.

Don't like free speech, huh??? Looks like you had better get on over to Dimmo Underground where you belong.

510 posted on 06/08/2009 1:17:43 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Shaun_MD

I douby if you will be missed by many.


511 posted on 06/08/2009 1:20:15 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Zakeet

Uh, the storm trooper line was not mine.


512 posted on 06/08/2009 1:29:19 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: TheMom
Holder has announced the DOJ's intent to go after any individual or organization who opposes abortion in this country.

Scary stuff!

513 posted on 06/08/2009 1:37:11 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; wmfights; wagglebee
But to correct a bad law, it's better to find a solution that doesn't involve us killing one another. Absolutely!...I suspect they will try to find the entire pro-life movement complicit by reason of its showing pictures, calling the unborn a baby and the act, murder or killing.

Of course they will....if a trial lawyer doesn't beat them to it first.

And they will have a good case.

In Christianity, the hope of broadcasting our message of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection is that there will be those who hear and turn to Christ. As people of the gospel message, we DO believe that a message believed CAN change behavior.

We believe in "inciting" to salvation.

The pro-life movement is sadly mistaken if they think their security lies in denying their complicity. Their security lies in taking the offensive, and shouting from the rooftops that the right to life guaranteed in the constitution and stolen by judicial fiat is their justification for calling murder murder.

They can be weak or they can be strong. We don't know that Roeder killed for pro-life reasons, but we do know that, if it were for pro-life reasons, then he fired before the commander's instructions. He hadn't yet seen the whites of their eyes. In fact, the commander hasn't yet been found, and the troops haven't yet been assembled.

Disenfranchisement = Usurpation.

514 posted on 06/08/2009 2:09:28 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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Excellent post!


515 posted on 06/08/2009 2:14:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Sloth; Travis McGee; dixiechick2000; P-Marlowe; Cheetahcat

Ya’ll are all girlymen.

Modrut Waldman quoted me TWICE.

I must have done good.

Methinks he is probably one of those “no one really likes abortion, but” types

he reminds me of how Vanderbilt has an atheist on it’s Divinity college staff..with his belief.net site...what does he believe in?...besides hits


516 posted on 06/08/2009 2:33:29 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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The more I read about Waldman the more I realize he’s a fakir.

a lefty relativist hiding behind an interest in religion


517 posted on 06/08/2009 3:29:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama may lie better than Slick did.)
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To: xzins
In Christianity, the hope of broadcasting our message of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection is that there will be those who hear and turn to Christ. As people of the gospel message, we DO believe that a message believed CAN change behavior.

Evidently Dr. Tiller did not resonate to that message, and willfully so. That way his chosen "behavior" could proceed unimpeded.

I do believe that "evil" has become a dirty word among Christians. We dare not name it, for fear that our lives would be made miserable if we do.

As for me, I cheer myself up by contemplating the following verses:

“They begin to depart who begin to love. Many there are who depart and not know it. For their walk of departure is a movement of the heart. And yet they depart from Babylon.”


518 posted on 06/08/2009 3:33:10 PM PDT by betty boop (Tyranny is always whimsical. — Mark Steyn)
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To: wardaddy
Ya’ll are all girlymen.

Modrut Waldman quoted me TWICE.

I must have done good.

Methinks he is probably one of those “no one really likes abortion, but” types

he reminds me of how Vanderbilt has an atheist on it’s Divinity college staff..with his belief.net site...what does he believe in?...besides hits

Could be worse Much Worse We could be them; a basket case nothing in life and a firery eternity awaiting at the end.

519 posted on 06/08/2009 3:36:50 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee; xzins; blue-duncan; metmom
Here you cite in no uncertain terms the very heart of the doctrine of moral relativism: "It's all a matter of perspective"; i.e., there are no absolute universal moral laws binding on all men at all times.

I believe you may have either misunderstood me or missed my point. The people who came to this country came to this country legally to escape religious persecution. AFTER the Revolutionary War, this country was founded upon Christian principles of freedom. But the Revolutionary War was not fought for religious reasons. It was fought for economic reasons-no more than what Castro fought his war for. The difference was intent.

Moral relativists hold that no universal standard exists by which to assess an ethical proposition's truth. Of course there is ethical propositions of truth by which we can subscribe. That doesn't mean we should overthrow governments because it violates our ethics.

If someone want to defend murdering someone to stop a murder, that to me seems pose an "ethical dilemma" for them, now doesn't it? What is the univeral standard? Personally, I would say the universal standard is "Thou shall not murder.", period. In this case, who's the moral relativist?

520 posted on 06/08/2009 3:42:46 PM PDT by HarleyD
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