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Viet Nam Gearing For War With China? ( Oil )
wnd.com ^ | May 29, 2009 | sJoseph Farah

Posted on 05/30/2009 7:46:00 AM PDT by kellynla

With attention focused on North Korea's brinkmanship on nuclear weapons and missiles, another potential crisis is brewing that is about ready to spill over into violence, with Vietnam apparently preparing to challenge China's ownership of a string of islands thought to be the link to billions of dollars worth of oil.

In asserting its rights to the Spratly Islands also claimed by China, Vietnam has ordered six Project 636 Kilo-class submarines from Russia and has gotten permission for the purchase, in addition to other military arms Vietnam has ordered.

Russia sees the sales as strategically beneficial and Chinese critics suggest Russia is trying to gain "strategic benefit by stepping up arms sales to Southeast Asian countries. Its arms sales to Vietnam possibly have special significance for Russia, because returning to Cam Ranh Bay has been a goal long cherished by Russia."

Given China's protective view that East Asia is in its sphere of influence, any new introduction of a Russian military presence, including military assistance to an old adversary, can only exacerbate their relationship.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; oil; vietnam; war
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1 posted on 05/30/2009 7:46:00 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Is this shaping up to be like the Iran/Iraq war, where we get to sit back, much popcorn, and hope for a long show?


2 posted on 05/30/2009 7:47:24 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

The Vietnamese would be fools to try it.


3 posted on 05/30/2009 7:48:20 AM PDT by ex91B10 ("Search" and "Preview" are your friends...)
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To: ex91B10

Yep. This ain’t the late ‘70s early ‘80s when the Vietnamese gave the invading Chinese a black eye. I don’t think things would work out that way today.


4 posted on 05/30/2009 7:50:17 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: kellynla

IIRC, the Annamese and the Chinese have been at war on and off for centuries.


5 posted on 05/30/2009 7:52:44 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: kellynla

Viet Nam Gearing For War With China?


not if their political leaders do have at least some brain left :-)
Vietnam fighting china? would be suicide.


6 posted on 05/30/2009 7:54:27 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: ex91B10

They’ve got Russian help. Fire up that old ‘50s “border dispute” again between China and Russia. That oughtta be good for something.


7 posted on 05/30/2009 7:55:23 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: kellynla

8 posted on 05/30/2009 7:57:05 AM PDT by angkor
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To: samtheman
“much popcorn?”

I think you meant “munch” popcorn. LOL

well I hope the Lefties in D.C. don't think for a second that my fellow Marines are going BACK to Viet Nam...’cause they'd be in for a RUDE AWAKENING!

I say “Nuke ‘em all and let God sort it out!”

Semper Fi,
Kelly

9 posted on 05/30/2009 7:57:56 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

the reality is NO ONE will dare to fight China in it´s own backyard. this times are gone forever that you could take on china in Asia an posible win.


10 posted on 05/30/2009 7:59:33 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: angkor

Looking at the map, how do the Chicoms claim the Spratly’s?


11 posted on 05/30/2009 8:01:05 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: kellynla

Quagmire.


12 posted on 05/30/2009 8:02:38 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: angkor

Can you dig up a map of whos drilling and exploring the gul of mexico ?


13 posted on 05/30/2009 8:05:17 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: ex91B10
They beat us, and they beat China in a border skirmish back in the late 70s. That has to make them a bit cocky. I must admit if it came to a war between the two, I would root for the undertaker.
14 posted on 05/30/2009 8:08:06 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: kellynla

This has been the buzz in the American Vietnamese community for a few weeks now.

Apparently Hanoi thinks the U.S.A. will come to its assistance against China (at least diplomatically), after a decade of quasi-cordial relations (which by the way have come at a very high price in “aid” to Viet Nam via The World Bank and other Western sources).

I was visiting Vietnam in Nov. 2003 when we (the U.S.) docked a U.S. Navy frigate - the USS Vandegrift (FFG-48) - in the Port Of Saigon for the first time since the VN war, and at the same time observed *at least 100* uniformed Aussie military personnel milling around in downtown Saigon.

It’s not clear if any foreign military personnel or vessels have been in Hanoi in recent years, or even in Haiphong (as was rumored to be in the works many years ago).

In any case, Hanoi has been making skittish overtures for Western military support for the last 10 years.

If only they would abandon Communism and the Cult Of Bac Ho.


15 posted on 05/30/2009 8:08:06 AM PDT by angkor
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To: kellynla; Jeff Head; Squantos

Don’t underestimate the VNs. THey have bloodied China’s nose before. They know how to organize, and how to fight.


16 posted on 05/30/2009 8:09:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kellynla

You are right. Absolutely no reason for us to get involved at all. And you’re right about the popcorn. I did mean munch, not much, but now that I think of it I could have said munch much popcorn. :)


17 posted on 05/30/2009 8:09:09 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: GonzoGOP

China has come a long way since “the 70’s”, and the Vietnamese have not.


18 posted on 05/30/2009 8:09:16 AM PDT by ex91B10 ("Search" and "Preview" are your friends...)
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To: kellynla

While the Big “O” is busy destroying America the rest of the world is taking advantage of his lack of experience in foreign affairs. A conflagration is in the offing.


19 posted on 05/30/2009 8:10:04 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Looking at the map, how do the Chicoms claim the Spratly’s?

Basically, because it's called the South CHINA Sea. They claim it all, up to the beaches of the other country.

And they are now the 500 pound gorilla.

20 posted on 05/30/2009 8:11:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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