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Live Thread: Obama vs. Cheney
Thursday, May 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 05/21/2009 7:11:47 AM PDT by kristinn

Obama goes first in a few minutes. He's speaking at the rotunda of the National Archives (you think we could get Nicholas Cage on that birth certificate thingey?) on his Gitmo policy and other man-caused calamities.

Vice President Cheney gets the rebuttal time. He's speaking at the American Enterprise Institute around 10:45 a.m. EDT.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; cheney; clubgitmo; detainees; gitmo; nationalsecurity; obama
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To: Nasher
This guy needs to stay off the swingset, he's becoming even more delusional than I had thought.

Is that his speech or that of his butch spouse?....

421 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:16 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: maica

Fear-Mongering [Michael Rubin]

More live-blogging: Obama has repeatedly referred to fear-mongering. This grates on me. Analysts strive to be accurate and precise. The greatest handicap analysts face is projection: Assuming everyone in the world thinks like we do. Multiculturalism is more than drinking mojitos with our sushi, however. When partisans dismiss security concerns as fear-mongering, they are in effect displaying ignorance about the outside world. What one experiences in the cafes of Paris, the conference centers of London, or the beaches of Cancun is a sharp contrast to what one sees in southern Lebanon, the hills of Yemen, or the villages of Afghanistan. It is important to recognize that these threats exist. It is the ultimate arrogance to sit in Washington and simply dismiss as exaggeration any threats because from one’s own limited experience, they can’t fathom that Hezbollah seeks genocide, millions of Islamists seeks eradication of Western culture, or North Korea negotiates insincerely.

05/21 11:00 AMShare


422 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:18 AM PDT by roses of sharon (NOTRE DAMIAN: ABORTION, YES WE CAN!)
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To: kristinn

He just said he will do everything possible to defeat the terrorists....

BUT he just made clear he will NOT do that!


423 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:20 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: ken5050

According to Pelosi, the intelligence organizations lie to Congress. Don’t trust the work of the FBI or CIA.


424 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:30 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Nasher

“Now he’s saying that he is going to release even more memos and that by doing this it will make us safer. “

Revenge for his loss.


425 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:32 AM PDT by sirjohn
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To: Williams
He just said the Constitution does NOT provide principles that can be applied pragmatically?????? It’s just a “compass”.

Just suggestions, eh, Bar?

The Somali pirates got nuthin' on Barry.

426 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Wrapping himself in the flag and sharing the responsibility for another attack with our men in uniform. I guess if it happens, they will share the blame. No questions.


427 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: PerConPat

You forgot about the pirate rescue. /sarcasm


428 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:56 AM PDT by ShandaLear (I LOVE RUSH!)
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To: Zakeet

oo Perfect! We need this on Big Billboards and Posters!


429 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:04 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: mewzilla

I was thinking the same thing. They’re feeding the prompter.


430 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:05 AM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: maggief

Got it!! Thank you!!
I love Dick Cheney!!! Woohoo!! Glad he is out there doing the talking!!!


431 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:08 AM PDT by jackv (Just shakin' my head!!)
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To: kristinn

This idiot just said My Admin will do everything to stop another terror attack on America after he just said he won’t use enhanced interrorgation techniques he won’t detainee people in Gitmo and he won’t do a bunch of things ...

I will do everything to keep america safe BUT I WON”T DO THAT>....

I don’t get it.... I guess this nuance is above my paygrade


432 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:17 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama's meme: Resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: spectre
I'm thinking either Obama is mentally ill or his speech writer is? Maybe both?

The speech is a rambling, defensive, blaming and divisive piece of egoism. Obama careens from one point to another with little focus, and he continually contradicts himself.
433 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:21 AM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: Rebelbase
Holy carp! Zero just set it up for when another attack takes American lives, he can say “I told you so”.

and it will be our fault for not wanting the Gitmo guys, he will remind us he warned us.

434 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:22 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: newgeezer

Well he’s mocked the inerrancy of the Bible...


435 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:24 AM PDT by cdchik123
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To: CheneyChick
"See National Security as a WEDGE that DIVIDES America"..

For the love of God, what the heck is he talking about with that?!!!!!

Here comes our guy!

sw

436 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:26 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: All

HEADLINE on FOXNEWS.COM

Obama Won’t Back Down
On Intent to Close Gitmo
URGENT: In scathing attack on Bush administration, Obama pushes to close Guantanamo detainee facility, transfer some terror suspects to U.S. ‘supermax’ prisons


437 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:32 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: NordP
bring on Cheney

That' s the only reason I'm tolerating Oboma. I don't want to miss a minute of Cheney's speech.

438 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:49 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Carley

This sissified, limp-wristed poseur turns my gut into jelly with his whistling psychobabble. He’s like a weak school principal trying to bring warring playground parties together with vague language that no one understands. Oh, NOW he’s talking about the “documents enshrined in this hall.” Is Sandy Burglar inside sneaking documents while Obama is providing cover? Those documents must be like some recent bills that were sneaked through Congress—no one read them, either.

He and the Dems are already positioning themselves to blame Bush or ANYONE but themselves for an attack. I guarantee that they probably have the blueprints already ready for such an event.


439 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:59 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: ken5050

“and this is what peopel in Israel live with every day..”

Coming to a neighborhood near you. :(


440 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:02 AM PDT by maggief
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