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Live Thread: Obama vs. Cheney
Thursday, May 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 05/21/2009 7:11:47 AM PDT by kristinn

Obama goes first in a few minutes. He's speaking at the rotunda of the National Archives (you think we could get Nicholas Cage on that birth certificate thingey?) on his Gitmo policy and other man-caused calamities.

Vice President Cheney gets the rebuttal time. He's speaking at the American Enterprise Institute around 10:45 a.m. EDT.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; cheney; clubgitmo; detainees; gitmo; nationalsecurity; obama
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To: mewzilla

Sandy?!

Sandy?!

Anybody seen Sandy?


141 posted on 05/21/2009 7:45:59 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: Jolla

I have had the tv on for 5 mins...and I know he must of said Bush 50 times so far!


142 posted on 05/21/2009 7:45:59 AM PDT by angelcindy (c)
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To: CheneyChick

Cheney doesn’t even have to listen to Obama’s speech. Cheney alreayd knows what to do and say and how to do and say it. :) He thinks with his mind and not a teleprompter.


143 posted on 05/21/2009 7:45:59 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: LadyBuzz
What a whiner.
144 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:04 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: MissNomer

Wow..he is casting this in political and ideologocial parameters..NOT national security..


145 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:06 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: CheneyChick

Now back on the tired talking points that Guantanamo made us less safe.

This entire “press conference”: I,I,I, bash Bush,I,I,I. Repeat.

What a load of crap.


146 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:06 AM PDT by Nasher
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To: All

Rasmussen: 75% Oppose Release of Guantanamo Inmates in the United States

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics2/75_oppose_release_of_guantanamo_inmates_in_the_united_states


147 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:16 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: maggief

I wonder if he wears a kind of contact lenses that force him to look down his nose at the prompter.

He is such a liar in every breath he takes that it would not surprise me to know that he needs contacts.


148 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:35 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
I think Bush is holding back a snicker...

I think I agree with that, too...he's holding back something - that's for sure. I didn't get "sheepish" at all.

149 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:41 AM PDT by babyfreep (It's all about control.)
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To: maggief

Yep, he is po’d & blaming everyone else no matter what words are coming out of his mouth


150 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:41 AM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: kristinn

If you summarize everything he’s saying, it’s all about how smart and wonderful he is, and how lucky we are he’s in charge now. This guy defines a new category of narcissism. Good God, how embarrassing.


151 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:47 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: CheneyChick

First reaction to Obama speech [Michael Rubin]

A bit of live-blogging. It’s one thing to speak of an extremist ideology, but refusal to name that ideology belies the seriousness with which we should face the threat. And it’s one thing to praise the re-energization of the nuclear non-proliferation regime, but this too has become a mockery, as North Korea and Iran show every single day.

The basic issue which Obama is dancing around is whether terrorism is a police issue or a military issue. The difference is stark: If a police issue, in reality we deal with the threat after the ‘crime’ has occurred. If a military issue, we address preemptively.

The moral contrast argument is a diversion. We are a nation of laws, a nation of law for U.S. citizens and those on U.S. soil. Trying to apply U.S. law or even international law to those to whom they were never meant to apply undercuts security and undercuts the status of law. Ted Lapkin explains well, here. What Obama in effect does is take away any incentive for terrorists to adhere to rule of law.


152 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:52 AM PDT by roses of sharon (NOTRE DAMIAN: ABORTION, YES WE CAN!)
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To: Nasher

“Our conscience”?? Do people who support baby killing even have a conscience?


153 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:13 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: TornadoAlley3
Obama will regret this speech.

Absolutely. This Nancy Pelosiish. Playing to the extreme left instead of the rest of America. He's kicked up a notch and Cheney (and hopefully others) need to respond in kind.

154 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:20 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: maica

Last time I went to the Archives, Photography was prohibited as to not destroy the documents. All the lights required for live TV are blinding. What is that doing to the documents, hmm destroying them. How ironic.


155 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:24 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Note to Barry: Keep diggin’, pard...


156 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: roses of sharon

I can’t wait to hear what Reid has to say..


157 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:30 AM PDT by ken5050
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To hear Obama say that we must “adhere to the rule of law” is particularly grating, offensive, and disingenuous, considering how he has demonstrated a complete disregard for sections of the Constitution when he finds it convenient to do so.


158 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:42 AM PDT by Sparko
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To: kristinn

I simply can’t believe the words that i hear coming out of this man’s mouth. How can you possibly think that the Bush policies against terror have been “ineffective” when we have not been hit since 9/11???!!!

What the hell have you Obamunists done?? Is there any doubt as to why there is no ammunition to be had besides birdshot in any sporting goods store in the Nation??

Keep in mind that the Second Amendment exists to protect us from the Government, not the other way around....

Cheney, Limbaugh, Hannity, et al will shred him over this one...


159 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:53 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: kristinn

He’s having a snit fit on national tv. What an embarrassment.


160 posted on 05/21/2009 7:47:56 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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