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Live Thread: Obama vs. Cheney
Thursday, May 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 05/21/2009 7:11:47 AM PDT by kristinn

Obama goes first in a few minutes. He's speaking at the rotunda of the National Archives (you think we could get Nicholas Cage on that birth certificate thingey?) on his Gitmo policy and other man-caused calamities.

Vice President Cheney gets the rebuttal time. He's speaking at the American Enterprise Institute around 10:45 a.m. EDT.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; cheney; clubgitmo; detainees; gitmo; nationalsecurity; obama
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To: nina0113

re: What’s going to happen when terrorists take the entire elementary school nearest to the SuperMax hostage?

Damn good question.

I saw the video by police of Beslan (when they first went in after), I also saw the blueprints of schools found in Iraq in 2004 (several in different states), people better wake up.


1,081 posted on 05/21/2009 12:59:17 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Stolen from Evil Slayer)
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To: potlatch

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Obama was smart in the style of Al Capone, Hitler, and Mussolini

I anticipate that Barack Hussein Obama Junior will leave the planet in much the same way as Capone and the other two fascist morons did


1,082 posted on 05/21/2009 1:01:46 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teachers Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: Texas4ever

That speech required an altar call afterwards...
(for dem conversions)

I bet many dems whose scales have started to drop are seeing the light in this contrast.


1,083 posted on 05/21/2009 1:04:13 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Stolen from Evil Slayer)
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To: popdonnelly

So true. Only arrogance. If their voters think they can count on them; they are sadly mistaken. This scum will get rid of them too. Dictators have no friends.


1,084 posted on 05/21/2009 1:09:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: All

Seeing as Obama did the democratic response before Cheneys speech, someone let me know when the reporters get to Gibbs at the presser (for his response).


1,085 posted on 05/21/2009 1:09:50 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Stolen from Evil Slayer)
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To: devolve

He had the mob-town backing and the Alinsky playbook to achieve his goals.


1,086 posted on 05/21/2009 1:09:59 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Right Cal Gal
I love Dick Cheney. He got a double helping when the good Lord was handing out ba**s.

Cheney had 5 military deferments during Vietnam. My Dad served 2 tours in Vietnam. Many others served there without complaint and many came home missing limbs or in a coffin. Please don't say Cheney has balls.

Cheney is better than obama but not much. The Bush/Cheney ticket is one reason we have Obama in the White House right now.

1,087 posted on 05/21/2009 1:10:35 PM PDT by tc45a
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To: McGruff

re: URGENT: In scathing attack on Bush administration, Obama pushes to close Guantanamo detainee facility, transfer some terror suspects to U.S. ‘supermax’ prisons

Define some. Where will the rest be since he’s ‘closing’ Gitmo?


1,088 posted on 05/21/2009 1:11:59 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Stolen from Evil Slayer)
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To: PapaBear3625

re:

Yes! Someone mentioned, yesterday, that there is a possibility of terrorists in prisons on US soil being able to control happenings both inside and outside the prisons. They don’t need to escape in order to cause harm. Mob bosses and drug lords organize crimes from within prison.

Your response:

And they have a better ability to threaten the families of the guards if the guards do not cooperate.

Mine:

Don’t forget their lawyers taking messages out for them.


1,089 posted on 05/21/2009 1:17:56 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Stolen from Evil Slayer)
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To: tc45a

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How many years did you serve in the US military General?

I guess you joined as I did?


1,090 posted on 05/21/2009 1:18:25 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teachers Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: CheneyChick

LOL!!!!


1,091 posted on 05/21/2009 1:19:06 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: All

I’m glad Cheney did this. I’m sure he didn’t want to go there... but for this country, intel comm. and our troops still on the ground, he did.

I’m so thankful.

I’ll make sure the troops get the video for those who missed it.


1,092 posted on 05/21/2009 1:21:32 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Stolen from Evil Slayer)
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To: devolve
How many years did you serve in the US military General?

What does that have to do with anything? I respect the military. I just saying a fact.

Bush/Cheney gave us Homeland Security which obama is going to use against us.

1,093 posted on 05/21/2009 1:22:22 PM PDT by tc45a
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To: tc45a

If the US military designed a system in place that allows one to meet a criteria of deferment, then why wouldn’t one use it?


1,094 posted on 05/21/2009 1:26:08 PM PDT by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: khnyny

I think there is something to that.


1,095 posted on 05/21/2009 1:27:04 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: tc45a

Cheney had 5 military deferments during Vietnam. My Dad served 2 tours in Vietnam.

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My respect to you father. I supported people who went to Vietnam then and now, and knew quite a few.

Were you already born when he was there? Did he defer college to go and volunteer or was he drafted?


1,096 posted on 05/21/2009 1:27:16 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: kristinn

Video at MSNBC. Link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/30868292#30868292


1,097 posted on 05/21/2009 1:32:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The 5 Stages of Collapse: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/47157)
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To: tc45a

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You compared Dick Cheney to your father regarding military service

I simply compared any possible volunteer military service by you and I

My father’s or my brother’s military service record cannot be used by me as an asset or a resume enhancer

It looks like you had more important things to do - too


1,098 posted on 05/21/2009 1:33:29 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teachers Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: potlatch
potlatch wrote:
Which one is the ‘57th’ state?

I wrote:
Kenya, d'oh!

You didn't say 'nation', you said 'state'. Obama mentioned visiting 57 states in the Union while he was campaigning (not the campaigning he's done while President, but before, when he was just a candidate). Since there is tons of speculation that he is not an American citizen, but a citizen of Kenya, I was making a joke about the '57th state'. :-)
1,099 posted on 05/21/2009 1:34:17 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48
I know. We are both familiar with all of this, lol.

Out of curiosity I did a Google search on the ‘57 states’ remark and that's where I came up with the information about 57 Islamic nations.

Thanks for your reply.

I have identical twin daughters. LOTS of work when they're tiny but so much fun!

1,100 posted on 05/21/2009 1:42:19 PM PDT by potlatch
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