Posted on 05/16/2009 1:11:13 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
On Sept. 4, 2002, less than a year after 9/11, the CIA briefed Rep. Porter Goss, then House Intelligence Committee chairman, and Mrs. Pelosi, then the committee’s ranking Democrat, on EITs including water boarding. They were the first members of Congress to be informed.
So, who was the director of the CIA, from 9/11 to 2004?
George J. Tenet was the Director of CIA, from 1997–2004 .
Tenet was appointed by President Clinton and approved by Congress. Tenet then became the CIA director in August of 1997.
So, Pelosi is now saying that George Tenet lied to her or ordered his congressional briefers to lie to Nancy.
“...not persuasive to believe that representatives from coal mining districts or energy producing states believe this administration is advancing the interests of their constituents when it openly declares it will put them out of business.”
Except that its ALREADY happening...
The only logical conclusion is that proportional representation is failing in the face of some financial/intellectual ideology.
The media have succeeded in demonizing George Bush and deifying Barak Obama. There is no percentage play for a Democrat who wishes to continue his career in Congress to stick his head up over the parapet. All one has to do is witness the ferocity of the attacks against Joe the Plummer, Miss California, Sarah Palin, Joe Lieberman, and the imminent destruction of Nancy Pelosi, to get a sense of the raw power of this perfect storm.
If I were a Democrat Congressman, I would be looking over my shoulder as if I were living in the age of Stalin's purges only now ostensibly conducted by MoveOn.org on behalf of George Soros. It is hard to fathom the depth of the paranoia which might be flowing under the surface of the Democrat party under these circumstances.
Still, I do not think it is a conspiracy but rather an unspoken awareness that one dare not cross the first black President and count himself as part as a respectable member of his party.
I agree that its not a “conspiracy” in the tin-foil hat sense...but that your observation of a “perfect storm” is what I prefer to call a “confluence of interests” ...and the purpose of speculating as to the origins would be to try to devise an antidote. I suspect a restoration of House representation to 1:50000 from the current 1:500000 would do the trick.
“As Bull Halsey says in my tagline, “attack, repeat, attack.”
Cool quote. Can you clarify what he meant since you tag line is missing the second coma. Did he mean attack, then repeat the attack, or was he simply making sure his commanders understood his order to attack by repeating it?
What I don’t understand is why Republicans, who surely must have had the same briefings are not stepping up and saying- yes I was there and she was there and she was briefed...
Republicans seem to be so unwilling to stand up and speak out when it would be the right thing to do.
You can bet if this happened with a R during an R administration the dims that had knowledge would speak out about what happened- they would not shut up until resignations happened and even then would use the issue over and over for leverage.
Republican politicians will sit there even though armed with all the ammo they need against a dim or dim policy and will remain silent and let the issue fade. I just don’t understand it at all. I know the party line is that the Rs are above all that- but when it comes to important issues and the good of the country is at stake they still won’t open their mouths.
You know I have been meaning to add the comma to my tagline for some time. Halsey meant that his subordinate commander who had sighted the enemy fleet should attack.
But no one who knows the character of William F. Halsey would doubt for a minute that he would expect his subordinate to attack again if the first attack did not finish the job.
I think Halsey would shape up our Republican leaders in a hurry.
There, I just added the comma.
Thanks for your in depth answer and analysis. My sense is that there are a lot of people riding the tiger. They might be scared, but it’s too late for them to try to get off. God help us.
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Her being pushed out does nothing to help Republicans or this country.
Steny Hoyer will be made speaker and the democrats will continue on with aiding enemies of this country (foreign and domestic) nothing will change.
yep---they all be worthless cannon fodder for the next attack.
Two great posts!
It is abundantly clear that the only thing the CIA has done well for a long time now, is guard it’s own institutional interests. The Democrats were fools indeed to think that the same institution that so ruthlessly waged bureaucratic guerilla warfare against the GWB administration would allow a Dem-led congress to replay the hits from the seventies (Church committee, et al) and march them up the Hill for a televised auto-da-fe. The real question is how did the MSM suddenly decide to pick up the ball? The Thursday press pack attack almost looks like a Ceaucescu moment for Madame Speaker. I’m guessing it was talk radio and Fox news that forced them to stop ignoring the issue of Pelosi and co.’s connivance.
It is clear that those Dem congresscritters manhandled over the years by Pelosi have decided that now is the time for payback and it looks more and more like Obama has also concluded that a new House Speaker might not be a bad idea.
Make no mistake, this fish rotted from the head on down. Obama was behind the whole thing from the beginning. He wanted former Bush staffers persecuted to the max, he just thought he could set events in motion and push them along with strategic nudges without having to take any responsibility for events. Ostentatiously sending the issue to Eric Holder, releasing memos, trying to release photos, it was his idea from the beginning. However, it was up to the Dems on the Hill to do his actual dirty work and it has blown up in their faces big time. Pelosi IS going to go down, not for any lofty reasons, but because Steny Hoyer, Jane Harman and co. smell her blood in the water and want to settle some scores.
Obama, meanwhile is suffering a rocky learning curve that can be summed up in that being an activist/agitator and partisan legislator is a whole hell of a lot easier than being in charge and having to assume executive responsibility. He can no longer indulge his leftist wet dreams and not have messy consequences sticking to him in the morning.
Don’t be too sure that Madame’s going to the guillotine would be a bad thing.
So far Obama has been relying on an obedient Dem-ruled congress to make his dreams come true. Pelosi is now suffering the consequences of blind obedience and the relationship has just gotten a lot more complicated. Now that the Obama high is crashing you’ll see from here on that individual dems will be back to thinking about their own interests first and foremost as the bills start coming due. Especially those who are up next year.
Obama needs dems to march in total lockstep to pass his social engineering projects and even a few dems in River City dropping out of his Music Man parade will cause it to stall and derail.
I would pay good money to watch!
Excellent point but the issue is a double edged sword. Shall she be struck down now so the media narrative can brand her as a martyr before the general public really knows what she has foisted upon them, or do we let the cancer spread a bit and let the media take her out?
If the media responds as expected, they will strive to pump life support into her while the power food fight within the Democrat party takes even more of them out with her.
The reality is that we are screwed anyway until at least 2011. I’m looking for a sea change, not a new bucket of the same scummy water.
Great statement. I'm gonna use that line at the Legion today.
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