Posted on 05/12/2009 11:09:18 AM PDT by presidio9
In an action that spoke far louder than words, Pope Benedict yesterday walked out of an interfaith meeting in Jerusalem after the chief Islamic judge of the Palestinian Authority launched into an anti-Israeli diatribe.
The pontiff, on his first day in Jerusalem, did not realize at first that Sheikh Taysir al-Tamimi, speaking in Arabic, was condemning the "crimes of the Jewish state" and accusing Israel of having "slaughtered women, children and senior citizens."
But as soon as he was told the nature of the sheikh's tirade, he stood and left the meeting, which took place at Notre Dame church, before it had concluded.
It's not as if the organizers shouldn't have seen this coming: Back in 2000, Tamimi did the same thing during a visit by the late Pope John Paul II.
A spokesman for the Holy See later condemned the remarks, saying that
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***The Pope’s summer castle...***
Why are you worshiping Castol Gandolfini? I thought that you claimed to be Christian, although every post is Paulian. Are you switching to Gandolfinian?
***He is risen. Jesus is risen and is no longer on the cross... ***
I thought that you guys didn’t care about Jesus except as a distant talking point to whatever the daily interpretation of Paul is.
***I assume all of the poor are now provided with everything they need... (do I need the: /sarcasm?) or not! ***
Do you tithe?
***Rich and powerful, yep. Just as Jesus warns, the Vatican flaunts it’s wealth! ***
The churches that the Church builds are meant to show gratitude to God and to show man just how little he is compared to Almighty God.
You obviously have been to the Protestant prayer barns with their stages and their prancing, dancing medicine men who pound bibles and berate audiences, and in the case of the snake handlers, pretend to speak in tongues and quiver and quake with the Holy Spirit supposedly guiding them.
God is Infinite and man is infinitely small. Worship of Him ought to keep that in mind.
***21”This is how it will be with anyone who stores up things for himself but is not rich toward God.” ... ***
The Pope is not rich monetarily; the Church is God’s not man’s. I think I see where you’re going here. Remember the Tenth Commandment:
Neither shall you covet your neighbour’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbour’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.
Oh, but that’s right. The Commandments don’t apply to you. Well, covet away and grovel in your enviousness.
***Matthew 6: 1”Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.***
In other words, you are like the Pharisees in preaching actions to others and not doing them yourself, but not doing them in a manner that would fool others into thinking that you actually are. Nice.
***7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.***
Wow, you have found Jesus. We have made a difference. The next step is in getting you to understand Him.
***Your church still keeps His GRAVEN IMAGE on your GOLD crosses. ***
A graven image of Jesus? The iconoclasts are alive and well, aren’t they. How do you get through the day?
***You don’t acknowledge your own leaders. I identified my Elders, and you proceeded to denigrate them. ***
No, we are your Elders and you continue to deny us as Elders as you deny the Words of Jesus.
***Take His GRAVEN IMAGE off your golden altars***
We are not ashamed of Jesus and we are reminded constantly of His Sacrifice to save the whole world, including the heretic, the apostate and the pagan. You are welcome.
***Not “as a Catholic”, Pete. Just summing up the Scriptures related to your actions and denials. ***
More of your ‘non interpretation’ interpretation? It’s as lousy as your previous attempts.
*** Jesus will still win, in spite of your denials of truth... ***
Right on point one, wrong pronoun on point two.
***I take my truths from god’s Word,***
We take the Gospel of Jesus; we don’t have a ‘god’ and we don’t ‘take truths’ from the Gospel. This is an odd phrase for one who claims not to interpret. I’d say that you are contradicting yourself.
I’m really grateful to have been able to participate and bring Christ to the unbeliever in this thread. The novel inventions of man and the rather odd, nay, unChristian and unScriptural beliefs that you post merely reinforce the orthodoxy of God’s Church to me and to many who read this thread.
You guys are really, really strange.
Thank you, Jeff, for going all the way back to post #1, and thank you for your request for blessing for Pope Benedict XVI, and for not falling into serious detraction and slander about him, as has been done endlessly on this endless thread.
Yes, there should have been “walk-outs” at Notre Dame.
Bless you and yours.
All of us who believe in Christ Jesus and Him crucified, and recognize Him as the path back to God and eternal salvation, need to work together, despite whatever other doctrinal differences (because acceptanct of Christ Jesus and His atonement are the essential thing).
We cannot afford to fight each other while tens of millions of innocents die and while tens of millions of more are at risk (and not just the unborn) as this evil grows amongst us and all around the world.
Great!
I wish the rest of the world would walk out when those lunatics go on a racist rant!
You guys are really, really strange.
Nice rants, Mark. You only left out the truth...
Romans 10: 1Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
5Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by the law: "The man who does these things will live by them."[a] 6But the righteousness that is by faith says: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'[b]" (that is, to bring Christ down) 7"or 'Who will descend into the deep?'[c]" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,"[d] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." - with Love, Paul...
Do you feel bound to conform yourself to the Ten Commandments, or not?
It’s yes or no, you know...
Why are you afraid to answer yes or no?
***I’m really grateful to have been able to participate and bring Christ to the unbeliever in this thread. The novel inventions of man and the rather odd, nay, unChristian and unScriptural beliefs that you post merely reinforce the orthodoxy of God’s Church to me and to many who read this thread.
You guys are really, really strange.
Nice rants, Mark. You only left out the truth... ***
This is a rant? You might want want to go back over your posts where you refer to the Church of Jesus Christ as satanic. You guys really are strange.
You claim to be Christian, but I see little evidence of it. When repeatedly called out, you have with seeming reluctance, moved to post two posts ending with Love, Jesus. Now you are back to Love, Paul.
Very strange. I have asked you a couple of times if you really mean that Paul speak to you. You have not answered. I ask again. Does Jesus speak to you? If so, how?
***13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” ***
You are wrong in the context that you post this. Let us examine the words of Jesus. Matt 7:
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“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, 10 but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
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Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’
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Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you. 11 Depart from me, you evildoers.’
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12 “Everyone who listens to these words of mine and acts on them will be like a wise man who built his house on rock.
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The rain fell, the floods came, and the winds blew and buffeted the house. But it did not collapse; it had been set solidly on rock.
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And everyone who listens to these words of mine but does not act on them will be like a fool who built his house on sand.
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The rain fell, the floods came, and the winds blew and buffeted the house. And it collapsed and was completely ruined.”
The heavenly rock is Jesus; the earthly rock is Peter. The Church has preserved the words of Jesus and given them to the ungrateful, the heretic, the apostate and the pagan. We listen to Christ; we have selected the Gospels and that is what we teach. We do not, as in the example above, choose a misunderstanding of Paul over Jesus.
Every word in the Gospels is correct. Are you Christian or are you Paulian?
***Do you feel bound to conform yourself to the Ten Commandments, or not?***
When you are your own Pope, why bother to concern yourself with such minutiae as the Ten Commandments?
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1 Corinthians 2:We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9However, as it is written:
"No eye has seen,
no ear has heard,
no mind has conceived
what God has prepared for those who love him"[b]—
10but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
16"For who has known the mind of the Lord
that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.-with Love, Paul
Thus sayeth Mark, echoing his Roman leadership...
1 Corinthians 3:Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness"[a]; 20and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile."[b] 21So then, no more boasting about men! All things are yours, 22whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas* or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, 23and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God. -with Love, Paul
*Cephas = Peter
Back off on the personal attacks. If you don’t, you will be looking at a lengthy suspension.
***...The heavenly rock is Jesus; the earthly rock is Peter. The Church has preserved the words...
Thus sayeth Mark, echoing his Roman leadership... ***
Thus sayeth Jesus. Were you unable to interpret the passage from Matthew correctly that I have posted several times? I see. So you claim that your interpretation of Paul is correct and Jesus is wrong?
Why is that? Not even the Calvinists ignore Christ in the manner or extent that you are posting here. Can you enlighten us please? Or are you channelling Paul through your spirit medium even now?
Understood.
As long as this thread survives...
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