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MONTANA DEFIES FEDS - THREATENS SECESSION!
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| 5/4/09
| Jack Lee
Posted on 05/05/2009 11:31:04 AM PDT by OneVike
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To: BigSkyFreeper
As i said my family was homesteaders in Montana. Gallatin Gateway Montana is where my grandfather last lived before he we went home to the Lord. Where are you from in Montana?
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posted on
05/05/2009 1:16:25 PM PDT
by
OneVike
(Just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: Straight Vermonter
As I wrote to someone else Clarence Thomas, in his dissent to Gonzales v. Raich, seems willing to dramatically limit the congress power to use the commerce clause.He did, but he couldn't get Scalia to go along with him. (His dissent was joined only by Rehnquist and O'Connor, neither of whom is on the Court anymore).
To: central_va
I am not aware of any real blue steel weapons foundries in Montana. Please correct me if I am wrong. I'm not aware either, but I really haven't researched it. Regardless, it might make for an attractive relocation state for mfg's in states that want to ban them.
To: Lurking Libertarian
Certain hot button issues (drugs in this case) seem to blind people to right and wrong.
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posted on
05/05/2009 1:18:39 PM PDT
by
Straight Vermonter
(Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
To: AFreeBird
Not necessarily ban them completely. Maybe just regulate them. Maybe talk bad about them in public like they’re some kind of pariah.
145
posted on
05/05/2009 1:23:16 PM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: girlscout; skeeter
Bite your tongue!!No, that's skeeter you're thinking of.
146
posted on
05/05/2009 1:27:07 PM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: DTogo
I too will move to the first state that secedes. Several of us were talking over the weekend about this very thing. I think Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Oklahoma, Georgia, Tenn., Kentucky, S. Carolina, and Arkansas, would make a good core, with Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, and Montana being possible add-ins.
I doubt Arizona, Missouri, N. Carolina, or Florida would come along, but parts of them might. Same with parts of Colorado.
To: Straight Vermonter
Except the Supreme Court ruled against this almost 70 years ago. And they ruled that black people aren't citizens over 150 years ago. Wickard v Filburn wasn't the first abominable miscarriage of justice produced by a deranged court, and it will unfortunately not be the last. The desire of tyrants to impose their will upon and steal the liberty and fruits of labor of others seems to recur generation after generation, and sometimes those tyrants wear black robes instead of white hoods.
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posted on
05/05/2009 1:37:19 PM PDT
by
Technogeeb
(The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
To: Still Thinking
You forgot TAX them.
Kinda like smokers.
To: OneVike
My wife and kids are native Montanans and I have lived here for 38 years so I am kinda partial to Motnana. I lived in the South till moving here and still have some Confederate money from the Bank of Virginia so wonder if it will be legal tender if things really get out of hand. Montana is closer to the old South than the South is now. Hooorah!!
150
posted on
05/05/2009 1:44:29 PM PDT
by
jesseam
(Been there and done that!)
To: BigSkyFreeper
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posted on
05/05/2009 1:48:41 PM PDT
by
MeekMom
(http://www.soroswatch.com/)
To: AFreeBird
Yeah, getting out of Dodge cause you're about to get banned has this creepy supplicant quality about it, like you want to stay there as long as it's physically possible to continue to do business.
Bugging out while it's still marginally possible to do business and the fascist state still craves your tax dollars is YOU telling THEM to FO. Whole different dynamic entirely.
Can you tell I just finished Atlas Shrugged?
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posted on
05/05/2009 1:51:52 PM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: jesseam
I spent my weekends in the same jail cell in Virginia City as the "Road Agents," (
Haze Lyons, Boone Helm, Jack Gallagher, Frank Parish and "Clubfoot" George Lane) were in before they were hung.
Long story short, I was found guilty of contributing to the delinquency of minors in a drunk driving car wreck. Me and my girlfriend (Now my wife) were in the back seat of a car that went off the road by Ennis Hot Springs 22 years ago. My wife was the underaged person I was found guilty of contributing alcohol too. She has been in a wheelchair since. Her spinal cord was severed.
Here is the court house that has the jail cell in the basement. It is the same one from 1878. It is still in use.
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posted on
05/05/2009 1:56:09 PM PDT
by
OneVike
(Just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: humblegunner
They can keep that Hannah girl, though.LOL!! How about JOE???
154
posted on
05/05/2009 1:56:19 PM PDT
by
Cuttnhorse
(Obama...the convergence of Affirmative Action and the Peter Principle)
To: Technogeeb
I’m on your side but precedents make the road more difficult.
155
posted on
05/05/2009 1:56:29 PM PDT
by
Straight Vermonter
(Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
To: Cuttnhorse
How about JOE??? I've always held a fondness for ole Joe. Send him to Texas. :-)
To: LearsFool
Yes, increased demand. The people coming in will need to pay for that house, food, utilities, and so forth. They’ll need jobs.
Unless they can make money building houses for each other, they’ll all need to be engaged in some wealth-producing activity.
The lack of existing jobs is one reason the low-population states are low-population (else I’d be in one now!)
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posted on
05/05/2009 2:04:33 PM PDT
by
DBrow
To: Straight Vermonter
Only because so much of their power has come to hinge off it.
Past due time to reverse that before anyone else gets hurt.
To: girlscout
Joe, unlike some quarterbacks who can’t seem to enjoy retirement, is happily raising and showing cutting horses on his ranch in northern California. He is a good guy.
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posted on
05/05/2009 2:06:34 PM PDT
by
Cuttnhorse
(Obama...the convergence of Affirmative Action and the Peter Principle)
To: Lurking Libertarian
(His dissent was joined only by Rehnquist and O'Connor, neither of whom is on the Court anymore).
No, actually
Thomas wrote a separate dissent in Raich, joined by no one. He did join the dissent written by O'Connor, in which Rhenquist also joined, except for part III.
The best was a little while later in the
Oregon (assisted suicide) case, where Thomas mocked the rest of the court for beating a hasty retreat from their own conclusions in Raich. Good stuff, but the fact remains, Thomas is the only Justice on the Supreme Court who sees the abuse of the commerce power the way many of us here see it.
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