Posted on 04/29/2009 6:13:15 AM PDT by Pharmboy
I am Ani-Yun-Wiya...Tsalagi...or Cherokee to whites...
Who is to say the peoples were not here from the beginning?...Why did we have to “come from” somewhere else?
Where did the Asian peoples “come from”? Maybe the so-called land bridge worked in reverse from the standard theory...
At any rate, we were here BEFORE this was America...
Native people makes more sense...
That said, I was born in America and I am AMERICAN...I love my country and have fought in SE Asia under my country’s flag. So, to me, Red, Black, Yellow, or White, we are AMERICANS....
Last I read, the haplotype X among the Indians was not found to be of European origin. That leaves the idea that Clovis points were like European points as the lynch pin of that idea.
DNA ping
The Tsalagi are much better looking than those other people!
“Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans”
The problem I’ve always had with this statement is that it’s comparing peoples across many thousands of years.
Heck by that standard modern Europeans couldn’t be related to Cro-Magnon man because the morphology is different.
The shape of skulls doesn’t tell you whether someone is related to some else over thousands of years.
I would be particularly interested to see if they included Argentinians from near Tierra del Fuego.
First word of the quoted sentence is what assures that this article is just one in an ongoing series of articles on the same subject.
I believe that archeological, anthropological, linguistic and molecular (DNA) evidence ALL support the migration of Asian people(s) coming to what would become "America," and other evidence supports Europe as the origin for other "native" populations, as you say.
It looks like Spirit Cave Dude is looking at Spirit Cave Jessica Alba.
"It is notable that X2 includes the two complete Native American X sequences that constitute the distinctive X2a clade, a clade that lacks close relatives in the entire Old World, including Siberia. The position of X2a in the phylogenetic tree suggests an early split from the other X2 clades, likely at the very beginning of their expansion and spread from the Near East."
“I believe that archeological, anthropological, linguistic and molecular (DNA) evidence ALL support the migration of Asian people(s) coming to what would become “America,”
I agree with this, but nothing says that there wasn’t already a population of people here to begin with... It is possible that people inhabited all continents since the beginning...
Ani-Yun-Wiya legend has it that our people were here when the vulture’s wings carved out the Appalachian mountains...*G*
Nomadic shifts have occurred in all directions of the compass...
At any rate, I’m glad we’re here and not “there”...
Could be explained by multiple migrations originating from the same region/ethnic group, spaced over a few thousand years.
Well, blam is one of our resident experts on this topic, so I defer to him...
Just on the surface, this seems to have no end of problems associated with it. First of all, it seems to support the old Clovis culture theory, of a single founding NA culture, which is now perforated with exceptions, but still embraced for political reasons.
That is, if all NA peoples derive from the same ancestry, then they share a unique claim to the Americas. But if they don’t, some have more of a claim than others. This is why there is such intensive efforts to exclude any Caucasian ancients from American history, such as the Kennewick man, including the destruction of the archeological site where he was found.
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Indeed!!
Lamanite and Nephite!!
Hah! I knew it. The Polynesians just wanted to get in on the South American oil money. Thor Heyerdahl was right.
I’ve always believed they originally came across the land bridge that existed between North America and Asia. What I have never fully understood is why they would have split into so many different tribes especially in the greater United States. Is there anyone with some expertise on that subject?
Of course it does pose a very real problem for the proponents of those who believe that there are descendants of Mediterranean origin who formed these tribes.
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