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General who probed Abu Ghraib says Bush officials committed war crimes
The News Observer (McClatchy) ^ | 4/23/09 | Warren P. Strobel

Posted on 04/23/2009 10:00:20 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun

WASHINGTON — The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing "war crimes" and called for those responsible to be held to account. The remarks by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who's now retired, came in a new report that found that U.S. personnel tortured and abused detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, using beatings, electrical shocks, sexual humiliation and other cruel practices.

"After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," Taguba wrote. "The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account."

Taguba, whose 2004 investigation documented chilling abuses at Abu Ghraib, is thought to be the most senior official to have accused the administration of war crimes. "The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture," he wrote.

A White House spokeswoman, Kate Starr, had no comment.

Taguba didn't respond to a request for further comment relayed via a spokesman.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; afghanistan; bush; iraq; pantload; taguba; warcrimes
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To: anniegetyourgun
called for those responsible to be held to account. uh oh, looks like Pelosi is on trouble
101 posted on 04/24/2009 8:18:50 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The Obama Presidency, brand new and already the worst in history)
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To: guns_for_liberty

Agreed. I spoke out against those abuses when they went down.

Unfortunately, not enough did so, and here we are!


102 posted on 04/24/2009 8:19:21 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: bushwon
[Keeping Bush in the news cycle so Obama can get a free pass to “change America”. . .]

Exactly. Set fire to the theater two minutes before you rob the bank. The Democrats and their patrons will siphon off billions from the “Stimulus,” the bailouts and the carbon emissions rackets. And once they complete their takeover of the financial sector they can loan themselves money, forgive the debts of their friends and foreclose on their enemies.

103 posted on 04/24/2009 9:04:08 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: TADSLOS
Real objective isn't he? Define the policymakers wrongly as lawbreakers, then ask them how they could justify it. I suppose we'll see him on the hangin' commission.

Yes, he's made up his mind. "So, why did you create these illegal policies?"......similar logic to "So, when did you stop beating your wife?"
104 posted on 04/24/2009 9:17:10 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: EBH

What Hussein and his boys were doing, was torture. I don’t hear any of the mamby pambies talking about that. The beheadings by the terrorists, you strangely don’t hear the rights folks talking about that. You hear them talking about panties on heads and social mind games like nudity, and verbal tactics of humiliation.

I haven’t heard of the electricity torture, concerning anyone but Hussein and his boys. I wonder if this guy has gone off his rocker.

I am sure that torture leaves some people very bent. Then other people go through it and seem to be able to deal with it.


105 posted on 04/24/2009 10:36:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Another fag who has been anally probed so many times it has affected his thinking. There is no torture and if there were it would not be severe enough for the muzzy terrorists.

Traitor he is.


106 posted on 04/24/2009 10:51:12 AM PDT by soycd
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To: guns_for_liberty
The difference between Bush's using a power specified for enemy combatants who were fighting and killing our troops on the field of battle, and used to imprison those involved in terror plots against US citizens, and Obama's going after the previous administration for policy differences is rather significant, is it not?

We are not dealing with the same issue here. It is not the same "power" at work, IMO.

It was not a quest for power that resulted in the Bush policy to put terrorists in prison. It was a desire to keep America safe - which succeeded.

107 posted on 04/24/2009 11:44:25 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Antonio Taguba


108 posted on 04/24/2009 2:03:25 PM PDT by ketelone
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To: anniegetyourgun

You gotta keep the “Hate bush” flame burning. Its not even been 6 months into the Bammy administration, and hes going down in flames.

Economys down the tubes. US Navy cant take on a couple of somali pirates. National security is under a cloud.

What to do? DISTRACT THEM WITH BUSH! Its gonna start looking pretty, pretty old, pretty, pretty soon.

Cant fool all of the people all the time!


109 posted on 04/24/2009 2:06:05 PM PDT by ketelone
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To: anniegetyourgun
It’s almost like the Left won’t be satisfied until Bush & Cheney are publicly hanged.

And even that only would hold them till a new scapegoat came along.
110 posted on 04/24/2009 2:15:28 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I seem to recall that during the Clinton administration
the left had an extreme distaste for what they called at the time “old news” and they all had a deep desire to “move on”. Wonder what happened to that?


111 posted on 04/24/2009 5:45:21 PM PDT by adversarial
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To: adversarial

As we both know, “Move ON” applies only to the sins of the left.


112 posted on 04/24/2009 5:47:58 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: anniegetyourgun

113 posted on 04/24/2009 6:48:11 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: anniegetyourgun

The politicization by the democrats of the military continues. I bet he was promoted up the ranks by successive democratic administrations. Obama Zero does not fear a coup because all the generals are on his side.


114 posted on 04/24/2009 6:55:42 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ohioWfan

“It was not a quest for power that resulted in the Bush policy to put terrorists in prison. It was a desire to keep America safe - which succeeded.”

I’m not arguing that Bush abused the power to go after those who disagreed with him politically. I’m saying that when you grant the President the power to determine who is an enemy of America and then also the right to imprison that person indefintely with no recourse, then you have given the Presidency tyrannical power that someday will be abused. I mean, do you feel comfortable with O having that power?


115 posted on 04/24/2009 7:03:51 PM PDT by guns_for_liberty
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To: Cacique

“Obama Zero does not fear a coup because all the generals are on his side.”

How did that happen?


116 posted on 04/24/2009 7:05:40 PM PDT by guns_for_liberty
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To: BuckeyeTexan

One of the best movies of all time and an awesome performance by Jack!


117 posted on 04/24/2009 7:11:39 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: guns_for_liberty

For sometime now we have had generals promoted to key positions by political criteria. The left has known for some time that they needed to infiltrate the military just as they have every other institution. This is a pattern that was in practice in latin America for the last 25 years. Of course the left here paid attention. When democrats take over they fire or sack all republicans. Reagan biggest mistake was not to sack everyone in the state and defense departments. Of course Antonio Gramsci won’t get any credit for this, they will give it to that phony Alinski. The only way to fight back is to play the same game, infiltrate them, target, isolate and liquidate. Lessons from the Argentine dirty war.


118 posted on 04/24/2009 7:16:23 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: guns_for_liberty
I understand that, guns. My argument is that President Bush's determination that enemies trying to destroy us need to be imprisoned is not a precedent for this particular brand of abuse.

For me, in wartime, it is not a "tyrannical power" for the Commander in Chief to have the power that President Bush obtained, and I think that Obama's abuse here is unrelated to the wartime power of President Bush.

Frankly, the solution is to never ever again elect a Marxist tyrant as President. Even Bill Clinton wouldn't abuse power like Obama is doing.

119 posted on 04/24/2009 7:16:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

Eventually, someone comes along and abuses all the power that is available to him. That’s why the constitution limits the power of the government, from President to Congress.

If you never had tyrants, there would be no need for restraints on power, but eventually, they always come.


120 posted on 04/24/2009 7:44:23 PM PDT by guns_for_liberty
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