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Mexican standoff: Obama must ban assault weapons to halt violence on both sides of border
NY Daily News ^ | 4/20/09 | editors

Posted on 04/21/2009 5:58:38 PM PDT by pissant

Much of the talk about the U.S.-Mexico relationship these days centers on the flow of illegal guns south over the border. Fair enough, and long overdue.

American weapons, easily bought thanks to woefully lax gun-control laws, are winding up in the arsenal of Mexican drug cartels, who are murdering thousands and destabilizing our southern neighbor.

The havoc is spilling over into our border states.

But let's not neglect an equally dangerous trend in firearm trafficking - namely, the flow of illegal weapons from America's Southern states north, especially to big cities like New York.

As crime has declined in some big cities in recent years, that war has gotten less ink. But blood is still staining the streets, and easy access to guns is a big reason why.

We've said it before and we'll say it again: Most of the guns used in New York City crimes come from out of state - from places like Virginia, where it's criminally easy to get your hands on a firearm.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; assaultweapons; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; bhomexico; guncontrol; immigration; larrysinclairslover; mythof90percent; narcoterror; obama; secondamendment; semiautomaticfirearm; shallnotbeinfringed
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Sure why not. Just make a law against them, that'll do the trick.

Lord knows the bad guys are just about done for with all the laws we have in place already. Banning scary looking guns oughta be the final nail in their coffin.

Smuggling arms across border - yep, illegal.

Unauthorized entering into the US from Mexico, yep illegal(except to Janet Napolitano and Rudy Giuliani).

Selling and distributing drugs - check, still illegal.

Murder. Check.

Kidnapping. Check.

Bribing officials. yep

We really have them in a box now.

1 posted on 04/21/2009 5:58:38 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

GIVE US A WALL!


2 posted on 04/21/2009 5:59:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: pissant

You can’t trample the Second Amendment just because the Mexicans are a bunch of homicidal idiots. Their violence is not OUR problem.


3 posted on 04/21/2009 6:02:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (So Orwell was off by 25 years! So what!)
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To: pissant

Our zero is ‘gettin’ ‘er done’ isn’t he.....?


4 posted on 04/21/2009 6:02:54 PM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: pissant
So....4th-graders in New York have their own newspaper?

That's what the logic behind this editorial sounds like.

5 posted on 04/21/2009 6:06:18 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: pissant
A no-brainer place to start:

That line pretty much sums up the gun-grabbers' approach to the subject.

6 posted on 04/21/2009 6:07:05 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Easier to ban our guns and the Second (so they think) then enforce immigration laws and protect the border. What a joke.


7 posted on 04/21/2009 6:07:10 PM PDT by Frantzie (Let seniors, boomers & young people who voted for O that they screwed their financial future)
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To: pissant

There is that term “assault weapons” again. Here it serves to identify an auto loading one-shot-per-trigger-pul AR15 with an M5 submachine gun or an RPG. You call all of those “assault weapons” then say that “assault weapons”(semi-auto rifles) are being sold in American stores therefore the machine guns and RPGS in use in Mexico all came from WalMart.


8 posted on 04/21/2009 6:07:15 PM PDT by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: pissant

This issue is the most remarkable study of the manner by which demagogues use “The Big Lie.”


9 posted on 04/21/2009 6:07:47 PM PDT by VR-21 (Think it's time we stop, Hey what's that sound.....)
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Funny how the media wasn’t very interested in the finding of an antiaircraft gun down there last week. Guess they figured even they couldn’t sell that story as one about a gun sold at a gun show.


10 posted on 04/21/2009 6:07:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Is the problem Illegal aliens through a porous border? No.

Is the problem rampant corruption in the Mexican Government? No.

It’s guns. And we need to ban them here.

Where’s the “barfer”? I just ate.


11 posted on 04/21/2009 6:08:33 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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> We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again: Most of the guns used in New York City crimes come from out of state - from places like Virginia, where it’s criminally easy to get your hands on a firearm.

How objective. I guess the lib writer has the facts ready and tracked “most” (as he wants us all to know) guns that are coming from Virginia, home of the ‘gun-crazy criminals’.


12 posted on 04/21/2009 6:08:49 PM PDT by max americana
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I think we should just ban Mexico - that will solve everything. It will end the flow of drugs, end the flow of illegals, end the drain that Mexicans are placing on each state’s social services networks and end the flow of guns into Mexico.

Of course, we could also demand that Mexico fix its own d@mn problems and stop treating the US as a dumping ground for its unwanted people and the whipping boy for all of its problems.

Not that I expect the Obamoron to send that message to Calderon, but SOME US president should grow a pair and tell the Mexicans EXACTLY that!!!


13 posted on 04/21/2009 6:11:19 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Tzimisce

Me too, fortunately I don’t throw up unless I’m sick.


14 posted on 04/21/2009 6:11:23 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: pissant

The Mexican cartels appear to have access to full-auto weapons, grenades, and RPGs. How long before Mexican gangsters in the US get the same from Mexico? And how will the gun controllers rationalize things when gang bangers are using full-autos smuggled from Mexico?


15 posted on 04/21/2009 6:11:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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It is already against federal law to buy guns in one state and resell them in another without going thru a licensed dealer. It’s also against the law to smuggle them accross the mexican border.

Regarding a new AWB, we have something new we didn’t have in ‘94 when the 1st AWB was created by the feds......... SCOTUS ruled the 2A RKBA applied to us individuals. A new AWB may not pass heller muster.


16 posted on 04/21/2009 6:14:08 PM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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"We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again: Most of the guns used in New York City crimes come from out of state - from places like Virginia, where it’s criminally easy to get your hands on a firearm.

Crime is in direct proportion to the amount of human trash allowed to run free in the population.

If the proportion of firearms were doubled and the proportion of human trash remained the same, I don't believe there would be a significant increase in crime.

If the number of firearms were doubled, and the proportion of human trash were reduced by one half, there would surely be a significant decrease in crime.

It is the human trash component which contributes most significantly to the levels of crime, and the only realy way to effectively decrease the levels of crime is to reduce the proportion of human trash running free in society.

This explains to my satisfaction the situation in the "northern cities" the author mentions.

17 posted on 04/21/2009 6:18:50 PM PDT by VR-21 (Think it's time we stop, Hey what's that sound.....)
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Great idea. If you want to instigate CW2.


18 posted on 04/21/2009 6:29:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: VR-21

You have it exactly. It’s not only how much trash there is, but what you do with the trash that makes the difference. For instance, despite all the guns in Virginia, the crime rate there is only a fraction of what it is in D.C. or New York. Why? If guns = crime, and gun control stops crime, then D.C. and New York should be much, much safer places than Virginia, but the opposite is true. It’s all in how you deal with criminals: D.C , for instance, is where you get probation for felonies, and Virginia is where you get jail time for misdemeanors.


19 posted on 04/21/2009 6:30:54 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: pissant

I think my tagline says all I need to say about this idiotic subject.


20 posted on 04/21/2009 6:32:08 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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