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Open carrying of firearms legal, Van Hollen says (Wisconsin)
Journal Sentinel ^ | 4/20/09 | Patrick Marley

Posted on 04/20/2009 1:43:32 PM PDT by IDRATHERNOT

Edited on 04/20/2009 2:04:21 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Madison - State Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen said openly carrying firearms is legal in a memo he sent to district attorneys Monday afternoon.

"The Department (of Justice) believes that mere open carry of a firearm, absent additional facts and circumstances, should not result in a disorderly conduct charge," the Republican attorney general wrote in the memo.

Wisconsin and Illinois are the only states that have an outright ban on carrying concealed weapons. But Wisconsin's statute is silent on carrying weapons openly, such as in a clearly visible belt holster.

But people who openly carry guns often have been charged with disorderly conduct. That police practice has come under scrutiny recently.

In February, Brad Krause was acquitted after being charged in August with disorderly conduct for having a holstered handgun while he did yard work in West Allis.

Then last week, Jesus Gonzalez filed a federal lawsuit against West Milwaukee and Chilton after police officers in those communities detained him for carrying a gun in a holster in a Menards and a Wal-Mart. In both cases, he was taken to jail but not charged.

In his memo, Van Hollen noted that the state constitution protects the right to bear arms.

"A hunter openly carrying a rifle or shotgun on his property during hunting season while quietly tracking game should not face a disorderly conduct charge," Van Hollen wrote. "But if the same hunter carries the same rifle or shotgun through a crowded street while barking at a passerby, the conduct may lose its constitutional protection."

"The same concepts should apply to handguns," he added, citing the West Allis case. He noted that brandishing a gun in public is not legal, however.

Van Hollen said police retain the right to stop someone who is openly carrying a weapon to investigate possible crimes, including disorderly conduct.

"Even though open carry enjoys constitutional protection, it may still give rise to reasonable suspicion when considered in totality," he wrote. "It is not a shield against police investigation or subsequent prosecution."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; firearms; opencarry; wisconsin
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1 posted on 04/20/2009 1:43:32 PM PDT by IDRATHERNOT
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To: IDRATHERNOT

For later


2 posted on 04/20/2009 1:46:33 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

HOLY COW!

great news! and our AG actually grew a spine to boot!

MANY THANKS for the post!


3 posted on 04/20/2009 1:47:29 PM PDT by the crow (typical and bitter)
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To: IDRATHERNOT
WELL YEEEEHAWWW!

but maybe ya oughtn't do this?????

4 posted on 04/20/2009 1:47:41 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

I hope this goes nationwide. This is awesome!


5 posted on 04/20/2009 1:51:50 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

While I’m glad he supports us on this, I’m sad that our rights are so defined by the arbitrary whims of the bureaucrats.


6 posted on 04/20/2009 1:52:12 PM PDT by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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To: Vaquero

Wisconsin?? I’d believe that open carry of crack pipes and joints would be legal in Wisconsin, but guns too?? Amazing! When did Wisconsin re-adopt the Constitution?


7 posted on 04/20/2009 1:53:12 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: RandallFlagg
There are many states where open carry is allowed:

Concealed carry, however, is usually a much better choice if you have it available to you (which you do, theoretically, in all but Wisconsin and Illinois).

8 posted on 04/20/2009 1:53:23 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: IDRATHERNOT
"State Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen said openly carrying firearms is legal in a memo he sent to district attorneys this afternoon."

Not for long.

Like the gajillions of useless polls, these announcements only serve to tell Liberal-Socialists what they still have to do.

9 posted on 04/20/2009 1:55:25 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

Most states do.

http://opencarry.org/


10 posted on 04/20/2009 1:55:56 PM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

—bflr—


11 posted on 04/20/2009 1:57:03 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: IDRATHERNOT
...the Republican attorney general wrote in the memo.

Had he been a RAT, would the paper have stated his party so early in the article? If something bad does happen, gotta get the pubbies blamed, you know.

Oh, wait there would have been no story; he'd have threatened disorderly conduct and menacing charges against open weapons carriers!

12 posted on 04/20/2009 1:57:41 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Sir Gawain

Well arguably it was legal prior to the AG releasing that memo, but people were being randomly charged with disorderly conduct when exercising their right.

This clears that issue up.


13 posted on 04/20/2009 1:58:44 PM PDT by IDRATHERNOT
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To: IDRATHERNOT

This and the 9th Circuit decision that says states and local governments must abide by the 2nd Amendment make this a good day for gun owners.


14 posted on 04/20/2009 2:00:22 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Bump for your pinglist!


15 posted on 04/20/2009 2:02:48 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Oldpuppymax
When did Wisconsin re-adopt the Constitution?

A couple years ago. There was a referendum. It was close.

16 posted on 04/20/2009 2:03:43 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: IDRATHERNOT

KEEPER!!!


17 posted on 04/20/2009 2:04:30 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M. Thatcher)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

AZ is an open carry state, but I still wouldn’t do it. Too many Californicators and New Yorkers have moved here and will have an aneurism if they see you walk into K-Mart with a holster and sidearm. I’ve seen it happen.


18 posted on 04/20/2009 2:05:18 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: IDRATHERNOT
Open carrying of firearms legal, Van Hollen says

You know, his last name would make for a great name for a band.

19 posted on 04/20/2009 2:06:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

I guess plastering Van Hollen’s picture on milk cartons finally paid off.


20 posted on 04/20/2009 2:07:18 PM PDT by Monitor (Wag more; bark less.)
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